Talk:Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt

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Good show. Good show, sir. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jengod (talk • contribs) 03:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Titanic
The article states that Alfred Vanderbilt had intended to sail on the ill-fated RMS Titanic, which is an often used misinformation. It is now commonly known that it was actually his uncle, George Washington Vanderbilt, who, along with his wife, had booked a first class cabin but cancelled the passage on the last minute. They decided to sail on the Olympic but it's not exactly clear why. As their luggage (and also their servant, Edwin Wheeler) was already onboard the vessel, the Vanderbilt's decided to let Edwin sail so he could watch over the baggage. He travelled in second class under ticket 2159 which had cost £12 17s 6d. He died in the sinking and his body, if recovered, was never identified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.51.147.206 (talk) 14:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to sign that. OfficeBoy 16:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure about this? What's your source? I have an article from the Atlanta Constitution from April 16, 1912 which states that Alfred G Vanderbilt sent a cablegram to Mrs. Cornelius Vanderbilt telling her that he did not sail on the Titanic. Mc3409 (talk) 02:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm pretty sure about that. A specific source is the book Titanic - Destination Disaster written by John P. Eaton and Charles A. Haas, published by Haynes Publishing in 1996. In chapter four there are a some paragraphs telling of then well-known people who had cancelled their passage such as industrialist Henry Clay Frick, banker J. P. Morgan or Robert Bacon, American ambassador to France. Mr. and Mrs. George W. Vanderbilt are among them. The text says that the Vanderbilt's had cancelled the crossing due to a premonition of Mrs. Vanderbilt's mother, Susan Dresser. This is in fact also a misinformation since Mrs. Dresser was long since dead by 1912. Actually it has been Mrs. Vanderbilt's sister, whose name was Susan Dresser as well. I also found several texts while browsing the world wibe web for information on Alfred Vanderbilt, that confirmed the fact, that it had been George Vanderbilt who wanted to sail on the Titanic. I don't know where it's comig from, that so many people think it was Alfred. Excuse my bad English, I'm German. Regards OfficeBoy (talk) 13:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

The article on George Washington Vanderbilt II confirms it. 89.51.147.204 (talk) 14:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Warning to Vanderbilt, that the vessel would be torpedoed
See http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84026749/1915-05-01/ed-1/seq-1/#words=warned+German+EMBASSY+Warns+warnings+embassy+GERMAN+Embassy+Warned+warning --RöntgenTechniker (talk) 19:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

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Margaret's last husband?
Margaret's picture is captioned 'Margaret Emerson McKim'. As Margaret does not have her own Wiki page, can you tell us who was Mr. McKim? Valetude (talk) 19:52, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * His name was Smith Hollis McKim. He was a surgeon from Baltimore. (Personal knowledge). Nicolas.hammond (talk) 14:37, 11 April 2022 (UTC)