Talk:Algoma University

Edits by 24.109.88.233
This page has gone from lacking in detail to a bit of a mess. I will do what I can, but I am no expert.Dbrodbeck 13:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Fisrt off it is Brodbeck not Broadbeck... though call me Dave of course. I did not revert the page to stop anyone form having an opinion. (Though opinion seems not to be the correct word here, as this is an encyclopedia) I reverted the page because it was messy, and because much of the content was inaccurate. Sorry if you felt stifled, that was not the intention. And yes the infobox is quite nice!Dbrodbeck 00:15, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Note
Just a quick note that this article should be moved to Algoma University once the charter legislation is passed, but not before then. I'll try to remember to keep on top of that myself, but I'm noting this in case I forget or somebody else gets to it first. Bearcat 05:12, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I wonder if it should be moved when the legislation passes or on the day the Charter takes effect? Dbrodbeck 22:29, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think once the legislation passes is fine, as long as the article is able to state the date that the charter will take effect. Bearcat 09:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Makes sense.Dbrodbeck 11:38, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I thought the school was going to be named Shingwauk University, or was that just a rumor? 15:56, 17 July 2007


 * It will be ALgoma University. THe 1994 proposal for independence which died at the MTCU would have changed the name to Shinguak.  Dbrodbeck 12:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * There will be a news conference Monday, May 26 and people suspect that the charter legislation will be introduced on that day. Dbrodbeck (talk) 04:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought the third and final reading had passed, wasn't this when you wanted to change the article? I wanted to hold on changing the title myself in case i was missing something.. 24.109.90.148 (talk) 06:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We need to be able to provide the date on which the legislation will actually take effect. Bearcat (talk) 14:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have an unciteable source that says July 1, 2009. Now, until it is published though, I will refrain from doing the edit.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 23:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Staff
According to the "Staff Listings" on the university website. There are 94 people/positions listed is the staffs section (excluding all of the campus faculty), which is quite different from 36 listed in Wikipedia. Does someone have an alternative source for this info?


 * Hi, The 94 staff positions are support staff, not faculty. I am pretty sure the reference to 'staff' in the article is referring to full time profs.  There are not 94 full time faculty, it is about 38 right now, but AUC is  in a transitional phase right now where there are hires happening as well as retirements.  I am going to change it to 38 for now. Dbrodbeck 15:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I've changed the label to faculty as "38 Staff" can be misleading. Maybe there should be a staff label as well?
 * Hi, first off please sign your posts. At a University, in Canada, faculty are faculty, staff are support staff. Anyway, I see your point, but I doubt too many people are interested in how many support staff there are, and would assume that staff meant faculty.  (Not saying anything bad about support staff, hard  to run a place without them).  It seems after looking that other school either have 'faculty' listed or have both faculty and staff in their info boxes.  The academic calendar would be the best source for the number of full time people.    Dbrodbeck 16:46, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Matthew Good
I wonder if maybe there should be a little note about the recent ahh... clash with Mat Good?

http://www.matthewgood.org/2007/10/in-all-fairness-indeed/ http://www.sootoday.com/content/news/full_story.asp?StoryNumber=27668

It's sort of a messy shadow on AUC, I personally think MG is being a bit of a dick, and I wasn't there but don't really doubt he'd slander our city (He did it last time he was here, just a few snide comments throughout the show), anyways, personal opinions aside, I'm not sure if this issue is worth a footnote on the main page or not. (I know we'd love to just show the good things about AUC, but this is supposed to be a reliable source of information after all right?) --Grevian 16:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it is a messy shadow according to a minor website (the issue was not even picked up by the local paper) and the blog of a musician. Now, it was a bit of a mess, but hell, really, it hardly belongs in an encyclopedia article Dbrodbeck 12:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Shinguak U
Shinguak U has not announced an independence date. According to this article http://www.sootoday.com/content/news/full_story.asp?StoryNumber=30375 they will "...(offer)  courses are developed and instructed by Shingwauk Kinoomaage Gamig and offered under the degree programs granting office of the University of Sudbury and Algoma University College." That is not an independent University opening in Fall 08.Dbrodbeck (talk) 03:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the description of Shingwauk to more accurately represent what the article actually says. It appears that it may someday become an independent university, but at its initial launch it's going to be a federated school of Algoma. Bearcat (talk) 18:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a bit more complicated than that, it won't quite be a federated school, but that is the best description until Algoma gets independence. The problem is that I cannot find a reference that adequately describes the potential relationship Dbrodbeck (talk) 02:23, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Logo
I have a copy of the new logo, now if I could only figure out a way to upload it.... If someone wants it so they can upload itleave me a note on my talk page. Dbrodbeck (talk) 21:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

New President on July 1, 2010
Thought I would mention this here. Probably not yet time to put it in the article, but on July 1 it may be. http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2457370

Algoma, Algoma University, Algoma U, AU, and The University. Use one.
Based on the format used here, I'm going to change it all (except maybe in the first sentence or summary) to Algoma U. Should be less confusing that way while still keeping some of the abbreviation. Khono (talk) 13:41, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, made the changes. However, in section History, 3rd paragraph: It says the government of Ontario was going to charter Algoma as a fully independant university.  Should we call that Algoma U or was it known as Algoma College at the time?  Please make the change yourself if you believe it needs changing.  Leaving it as "Algoma" is somewhat ambiguous as it's within Algoma District and there are likely other uses of the name "Algoma". Khono (talk) 14:01, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * THe local paper, the Sault Star, sometimes uses AU and sometimes uses Algoma U. Before it was Algoma University it as Algoma University College.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 17:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Update about Shingwauk Kinoomaage Gamig
The article says it "is poised to open in the fall of 2008." How has that gone? I'd look it up myself but I forgot that I need to be in Toronto soon for a march! Khono (talk) 14:01, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Is this a real univeristy?
I never heard of it. Do they even have a libary? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.74.174 (talk) 02:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Troll much? Read the article.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 02:02, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Edits by 174.5.217.23
These edits were made by me prior to the creation of my account. As a Saultite and an Algoma U alum, I found the lack of information regarding Algoma U appalling and was only going to add a select few items. But I've decided to make a long-term project out of this. I am VERY new to Wikipedia and am doing my best to learn the proper procedures and protocols but I admit I will most likely need some help. Or at least someone to overview what I submit. Here is hoping we can give Algoma U a respectable page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saultperstar (talk • contribs) 15:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Your best bet is to post stuff here first, then we can look stuff over, tweak it, then get it on the main page. Dbrodbeck (talk) 16:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I've started a subpage on my user name, called it Algomausandbox! Not sure if your able to access it but that is where I'll be building the page from. Now let's see if I can get this signature thing right.. haha Saultperstar (talk) 19:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Site History: Residential School Legacy and AUC
As part of improving the Algoma University page, I felt that attention should first be given to the history of the site. There is a lot of important history regarding Chief Shingwauk, his views for an educational institution for his people's and the eventual culmination of his efforts that unfortunately were absorbed by the residential school system. I felt it should be separate from the Algoma University College (AUC) history. Shingwauk Hall could eventually one day have it's own page I believe but for now I'd like to just establish the main parts of it's history on the Algoma U page. Thoughts? Saultperstar (talk) 23:57, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * FIrst off, I applaud the effort for sure. My concern is that the university itself, while on the site of a former residential school, is not a former residential school.  I think putting the stuff in the history section may be giving it undue weight.  I would like to see what others think though. Dbrodbeck (talk) 02:57, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I complete understand and agree with your point D. Maybe we can trim it down, so we get the main point across. We can save what we cut and at one point, myself or someone else could continue to compile information to give Shingwauk Hall it's own page! But I agree that we should also wait to see what someone else thinks. Saultperstar (talk) 20:26, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Campus
The description of various parts of campus under "Buildings and Features" had more of a historical growth feel as opposed to an actual description of the campus. With campus expansion starting with the new Biosciences Center and soon to be followed by the FAME Centre and a (rumoured) new residence, I felt that it could use an update. This gets the ball rolling on a more comprehensive description of campus, if anyone can find anymore sources to describe campus that would be great. Photos as well. I still have to learn how to do that.Saultperstar (talk) 01:13, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

The Charities
This section seems to not add very much to the info about the school. Yes, AU has a foundation that raises scholarship money. Are there schools that do not? How is this notable? Reverting now per WP:BRD.Dbrodbeck (talk) 19:11, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Advert?
What parts read like an ad, and, what would people propose be changed? (I see this tag was just added, I see no suggestions about changes though). Dbrodbeck (talk) 17:32, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Five days is enough time for someone to have responded. I am not fond of drive by tagging either....  Dbrodbeck (talk) 16:31, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

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Special Mission
Would this source work for the missing citation?

https://www.algomau.ca/special-mission/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saultperstar2 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 8 March 2019 (UTC)