Talk:Ali Charaf Damache

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Muslim people, who live in a western country, may adopt a western-style inheritable surname. If their family has done so it makes sense to let their names be sorted, by surname.

But Arab people's have their own naming conventions (two parallel naming conventions), and they don't use surnames. Their main naming convention is more like the Norse naming convention, still used in Iceland. So, 10th century explorer Lief Ericson was the son of Eric the Red. If he had a son named Carl, his son's full name would be Carl Liefson.

In the Arab style, the son gets his father's first name, just like the Norse. Canadian Ahmed Said Khadr adapted to Canada, when he named his sons, Abdullah, Abdurahman, Omar, and Abdulkarim. In the usual arabic style they would be Abdullah Ahmed, Abdurahman Ahmed, Omar Ahmed, and Abdulkarim Ahmed.

What this means is that it is not only pointless, but genuinely confusing, to shoehorn individuals into the European style, when they don't inherit a western style surname, from father to son, to grandson. Geo Swan (talk) 23:08, 3 August 2017 (UTC)