Talk:All-purpose lightweight individual carrying equipment

ALICE clips
Needs to expand on the role of the loose metal clips, and why making them loose seemed like a good idea at the time. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:41, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Common term is E -Tool
Entrenching tool, not Intrenching tool 216.160.223.19 (talk) 23:58, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Intrenching? Entrenching?
I feel the need to point out that it would appear that intrenching is the word of choice. However, I believe that entrenching would be the better word, as according to some online articles, intrenching is an older more outdated term. Therefore, I say that we should change intrenching to entrenching due to its current relevance. 67.135.4.210 (talk) 16:09, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, it looks like entrenching became for favored style about 100 years ago. I'm fine if it changes, but don't see it as important. Dicklyon (talk) 03:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Move to Sentence Case
@Dicklyon has moved the page from "All-Purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment" (proper noun case) to "All-purpose lightweight individual carrying equipment" (sentence case). I think this move was done in error. "All-Purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment" appears to be a proper noun. Reference 1 also capitalizes each word, and references 3 and 4 (while they use all caps when naming ALICE) capitalize each component, implying that it's all a collection of proper names. Dicklyon, am I missing something? I'm a relatively new editor, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was a part of the MOS I missed or something. EducatedRedneck (talk) 00:50, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Capitalizing words in phrases to define an initialism is a common style, not implying anything about proper name status. It is not WP's style to use caps for that.  Capitalization in sources is very mixed, so per MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS, we default to lowercase, avoiding unnecessary capitalization. Dicklyon (talk) 02:53, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note that reference 2 (US Army Field Manual 21-15) has it all lowercase, even when defining the initialism (ALICE). And reference 1 points out that it's a "designation" (not a name).  It was military style to capitalize their designations (usually).
 * For more background, see the last few years of capitalization discussions summarized and linked at WT:MOSCAPS, which includes these discussions of downcasing military equipment terms:
 * Talk:T1 Light Tank (9 articles) – Lowercase "Light"/"Medium"/"Heavy"/"Super" and "Tank"? Result: Lowercase
 * Talk:Heavy Tank M6 (7 articles) – More Tanks (or tanks): Result: Lowercase
 * Talk:A7 Medium Tank (4 articles) – More Tanks (or tanks), plus an Armored Car: Result: Lowercase
 * Talk:Ford 3-Ton M1918 (1 article) – A 3-Ton (or 3-ton) tank: Result: Lowercase
 * Talk:M1 Armored Car (3 articles) – Two Armored Cars and a Combat Car: Result: Lowercase
 * Dicklyon (talk) 02:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)