Talk:Allard J2X-C

Significant content unreliably sourced
I see from Template:Did you know nominations/Lavaggi LS1 that one of the main sources used for this article page, Mulsanne's Corner, has been dismissed as unfit because it is a self-published source and "a self-published source does not inherit reliability from its own sources". Can this source be replaced with a reliable one, or the data sourced from it removed please. Jaggee (talk) 20:58, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Wrong, and since you're only here to disrupt this article, you've yet again failed to look into anything. The issue with the Mulsanne's Corner source in that DYK comes wrt a separate section of the site, and the reference involved here is reliable, as it cites its sources - which are also reliable. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 16:18, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Luke, since passed the article, let's see what they say. Jaggee, if no consensus on it is reached here you can try your luck at the noticeboard for reliable sources, but given that the article was passed as a GA I'd say that for now the case is yours to prove. Drmies (talk) 16:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * There is an RSN thread open at the moment, where I've stated my view quite clearly; the sources that are being questioned are all reliable. Sadly, it seems that it takes a bit more knowledge of the subject to realize this, and the bureaucracy here isn't necessarily going to mean that people will realize it. And the fact that a long-term editor in good standing has evaluated these sources before using them in the first place apparently also means absolutely nothing. And people wonder why I'm fed up with this place? I try and take a break, and uninformed people use that as an opportunity to try and destroy my work. Outstanding. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 16:54, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Admittedly, I didn't look too closely into the site itself, which has ultimately resulted in some grief. However, the cites for the technical specs appear to be supported by the ultimatecarpage.com reference as well. If Mulsaine's Corner is determined to be unsuitable, the other ref could possibly replace it with little trouble. Resolute 17:05, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * who will determine if it is unsuitable? User:Lagrange613 throws serious doubt on its suitability as a reference here, but Lukno removed it from the discussion here (I have since re-added it). Can you make a decision? I tried, but have been subjected to an unpleasant Spanish-inquisition-type grilling since, so am not keen to edit this article again. Jaggee (talk) 17:13, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I can no more dictate than you can, actually. If the source is up for discussion at the reliable sources noticeboard, then the participants there should come to a consensus on the source's viability.  If it is found unsuitable, it will then have to be replaced. Resolute 17:48, 10 January 2014 (UTC)