Talk:Alley-oop

Inclusion for In Popular Culture section
Song (#1 in the US in 1960) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alley_Oop_(song) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.210.174 (talk) 09:50, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

First used: when, really?
The article says "first used in the 1970s" at NC State. Poppycock! The 1961 high school team in my town had two guys who alley-ooped on in-bounds plays (two who could score on it, maybe more than two who threw the pass to the scorer.) This was not a common play in 60s high school ball, but I saw it done by players at other schools then as well.

Wonder if there is anything in print that can be referenced, that would help establish the actual first use of alley oops in pro/college/highschool.

In the meantime, this article should be re-worded. (So far I have not learned how, and this article is not worth the bother.)

Can anyone here at Wiki find a reference or info about this re The Harlem Globetrotters? This sure sounds like something they would have done before anyone else.Dcrasno (talk) 18:49, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

First used by Flint Tropics ?
The Flint Tropics & Jackie Moon were fictional characters but still the article listed them as the first professional team who used it. This seemed like a poor joke to me. I'm reverting it back to the pre-Flint-Tropics stage. Please change it only after confirming the truth about who were the first professional organization to use it. --Matuag 06:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Notable Ally Oopers???
The only guy on here who is actually noted for the oop is Thompson since he pretty much invented the thing. When I think of Ally-oops, I don't think of any of those other guys you have listed. Amare maybe for the mere simple fact the Nash throws a bunch to him but that's it.

Nash and Kidd are pretty much the only guys who are known for throwin oops. Nobody is really known for throwing them down. They may be known for dunking, but not specifically the oop. Maybe T-Mac since he did it in the All-Star game. But nobody is "known" for dunking ally-oops. --Jaysscholar 20:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Alley Oop used in the 60s
Al Tucker used to say he invented the Alley Oop. He and his brother Gerald grew up in Dayton, Ohio and went to college at Oklahoma Baptist University (graduated 1967). I saw them play when I was a kid and my dad was on the faculty. Al went on to the pros (Seattle SuperSonics) and Gerald went to the Olympics. Al died in 2001, but Gerald is still alive.

Origin of term
I doubt very much that the phrase "Alley Oop" originated independently of the Alley Oop comic strip that's been around since 1932. Not to mention the Alley Oop song, 1957. To say that the term came from a French phrase "allez hop" is far-fetched. This is a weak point in the article. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alley_Oop Also, the article seems take the term "alley oop" as a given, and describes the origin of the sports move, while neglecting the origin of why the term "Alley Oop" was used.


 * According to the article on the comic strip, the name "Alley Opp"for the lead character was derived from the French phrase. I strongly suspect that the name for the basketball play actually came from the comic. There is a short article on a football play from the early 1950s called "Alley Oop" and it states the name was derived from the comic. I suspect that the BB terms comes either from this or the comic and not directly from the French. However, proving this might be difficult. Wschart (talk) 14:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

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Is a dunk required?
The initial definition requires a dunk. If a dunk is required then David Thompson never completed an alley-oop in college, as the dunk was disallowed during his time at NC State.

I would alter the definition to something more general, as a "pass caught in the air and a shot made before touching the ground." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:740:8101:3020:C40A:1478:B6A6:A54D (talk) 02:27, 9 July 2019 (UTC)