Talk:Aloysius Gonzaga

Infobox
The infobox was placed beside the veneration section. I have moved it to the top of the article, since most other articles about saints had the infoboxes at the top. If you feel it was better where it used to be, you are welcome to move it back.

Savio mit electronics 07:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC) I made a mistake. I just saw the Wikiproject Saints page and understood that the infobox had to be placed in the veneration section. So I'm moving it back to where it was. Sorry for the mistake. Savio mit electronics 14:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Page Move
Any explanation for why this article was moved from Aloysius Gonzaga to St. Aloysius of Gonzaga?? "St." has been cleared from almost all saint related articles, with preference for using "Saint;" and most articles do not use the honorific "Saint" in the title, following naming conventions for saints. -- Pastordavid 04:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just restored to original location. -- Pastordavid 16:06, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

A comment
Reading this while making some small corrections two things struck me—apart from the dreary but inevitable long list of schools. Firstly the tone turns rather childish in places. Secondly we give no account of why he came to be seen a saint. —Ian Spackman 01:02, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll be removing the dreary, long list of schools now. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 19:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Timeline of his death
It's all very muddy in the Religious Life section. I could accept an account of someone's life going forward and back in time, where there are different aspects being kept separate. But it's a bit strange to describe his death, then hop back in time, then describe illness leading up to his death. Here, I just don't know what is supposed to have happened. "Aloysius was dying. His eyes were fixed on the crucifix he held in his hands, and as he tried to pronounce the name of Jesus he died. Like Joan of Arc and the Ugandan martyrs, Aloysius Gonzaga died with the name of Jesus on his lips."

So he's dead now right? But then... "He was allowed to work in a ward where there were no plague victims, as they were afraid to lose him. As it turned out, a man on his ward was already infected, and on March 3, 1591 (six days before his 23rd birthday), Aloysius showed the first symptoms of being infected. It seemed certain that he would die in a short time, and he was given Extreme Unction. To everyone's surprise, however, he recovered" So now, not only is he alive, but recovered from illness! I presume this just needs to be reshuffled. Vanhedrarn (talk) 21:44, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

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Is Gonzaga canonized as a patron saint of AIDS caregivers and sufferers?
Hello, I'm new to the process of editing, apologies if my formatting is off. I was concerned over the accuracy of a cited statement in the article

" For his compassion and courage in the face of an incurable disease, Aloysius Gonzaga has become the patron both of AIDS sufferers and their caregivers. [13] "

I checked out the source, which does lead back to a primary source on the subject. However the source only indicates that Gonzaga was proposed to be the patron saint of AIDS caregivers and sufferers. The source doesn't state whether or not Gonzaga was canonized in this role. To make matters more confusing, I went to check against the Wikipedia list of canonized saints by Pope John Paul II and found that Gonzaga is unlisted. Though it should be mentioned the full list is under dispute.

I suppose the next step would be to hunt for primary resources, which I'm in the middle of doing. In the meantime, is it acceptable to indicate that the aforementioned statement in the article is disputed?

Best

--Poplartdorsia (talk) 02:43, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * As the article says at the start, he was canonized in 1726. I presume you can only be canonized once, but other patronages (if that's the term) can be added. I don't think canonization as such involves any patronages, nor do all patronages require Vatican approval. It might be better just to add "proposed". Johnbod (talk) 07:16, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Redirect?
Saint Aloysius redirects here. Aren't there other saints named Aloysius? Shouldn't there be a disambiguation page? 2601:546:C000:1B10:55FD:9519:1E3:25DD (talk) 19:43, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Saint Aloysius
This person had his name changed by the Roman Catholic Church. He was a practicing Roman Catholic. He would have consented to this change to his name, if he had been alive at the time the change was made. Millions of people know him with the word "Saint" in front of his new name. Yet Wikipedia chooses to ignore this extremely important aspect of his life and call him by his former name. Clear bias, this needs to be corrected. Still not convinced? OK, try this: there would be no record of him in Wikipedia if he was not a Saint. He would just be another unknown Italian. 108.170.181.12 (talk) 16:06, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Nonsense, "saint" is a title, which does not affect his name as such, and it is always posthumous. This is our normal policy. Johnbod (talk) 18:28, 4 June 2022 (UTC)