Talk:Alpe d'Huez

List of winners in chronological order
The pages for Le Tour (and other similar pages, like the World Cycling Championships) list winners in chronological order, i.e., oldest to most recent. Any particular reason this page is backwards? (It confused me for a minute.) (Is there any Wikipedia guideline for this sort of thing?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.192.188.20 (talk) 17:37, 28 July 2004

Ski hill details?
The article starts by claiming that the Alpe is a 1850 m ski hill. Looking at the image one cannot help but be confused, as it looks like the slope in the background is perhaps 150 m at most. I noticed later on the page that the BOTTOM of the hill is at 1850 m... So is the ski area of the hill actually much smaller? If so, this should be what appears in the intro! Maury


 * the whole mountain is a ski resort, it links up with the "Les Deux Alpes" resort


 * the article focusses to much on cycling and as such the pic show roads, not ski resorts
 * just do an image search on google for "alpe d'huez ski" ,and you'll see


 * it's actually one of the better places to go skiing in france, if you can go outside the common holidays...


 * the pic in the article is basically the top of the mountain that's allready high up in the mountain, during winter that area is white, that road isn't accessible then either —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.46.207.127 (talk) 21:38, 19 July 2006

List of times for climb
Some times from the 2004 ITT still need to be added to the table. 136 riders finished inside 48 minutes in 2004. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.161.145 (talk) 22:27, 26 April 2007

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Lance Armstrong's time from 2004 (37'36") makes him only the fifth fastest, highlighting how the 1990s saw notably faster ascents than other eras. [...] The increase in climbing speed in the 1990s had been attributed to the use of doping products, primarily Erythropoietin or EPO. A number of riders with sub-40' times, such as Alex Zülle, Riis, and Virenque, have confessed to using such products during this time. Strong evidence also exists that Pantani's records were also achieved with the assistance of EPO.

It seems you absolutely have always to find a reason to justify the fact that your great hero best-of-all-time Lance Armstrong is not the best even in this occasion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.2.110.251 (talk) 17:24, 13 July 2008


 * I agree with above comment. Please note the autopsy results for Pantani, that excluded intense and continuative use of EPO. The "Marco Pantani" wiki page in english, has a reference to this issue. There is no proof of EPO use for Pantani. Please correct this. I'm going to inform Pantani's family of this shame. Hi. Roberto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.241.31.125 (talk) 11:42, 3 June 2010

mistakes in the list of times
In 1997 Jan Ullrich was 20 to 24 seconds faster than Lance Armstrong in 2001. Ullrich needed 37min 48-50sec for the climb itself (measured from the actual beginning of the climb: left turn in Bourg d'Oisans hitting the first 10% ramp), Armstrong needed 38min 10-12sec from the. This can be observed and proven by the available TV recordings one can find on the internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.64.135.163 (talk) 15:17, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

The table shows Laurent Fignon being 25 seconds faster than Pedro Delgado in 1989, yet they started the climb in the same group and they crossed the finish line together. Matteomjb (talk) 10:56, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

It seems there are still some corrections to be made about the ascent times, especially about the times of 2006. Frank Schleck won the stage that year at the summit of the Alpe d'Huez. Yet, according to the table, his time of 2006 is only ranked as the 20th fastest ascent while the times of Landis and Kloden, that same year, are ranked 7th and 8th respectively. Landis is said to have made 38'34 and Kloden 38'35. It is obvious that they couldn't have crossed the line more than two minutes before the stage winner. Same thing for Pierre Rolland in 2011. Being the stage winner, he could not have arrived 36 seconds after Samuel Sanchez. Unfortunately, I don't have the statistics, but I hope someone can check for the accurate times and change the list.--Onimarou (talk) 20:30, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The times are all over the place, some of the times appear to be based on 14.454km but some of the times on the list are based on 13.8km. The current accepted distance is 13.8. it really needs to be fully updated. Dimspace (talk) 22:49, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

You were right, Dimspace! I guess this list could be very accurate since they just focus on timing climbing records. They have also one for the Mont Ventoux.
 * http://www.climbing-records.com/2015/07/three-riders-make-it-into-alpe-dhuez.html (Alpe d´Huez)
 * http://www.climbing-records.com/2013/07/mont-ventoux-2013-two-new-entries-in.html (Mont Ventoux)

13.8 km in Alpe d´Huez according to Climbing Records:

Maybe the Wikipedians do some research if this is the 100% accurate list.--Niten Doraku (talk) 15:02, 23 December 2017 (UTC)