Talk:Alpha Delta Phi

Local chapter or member misconduct
I deleted a "Controversies" section, after considering a simple rename as "Local chapter or member misconduct". It started out with the report of the 1922 death of a member after some reports of 'horseplay', where the Hamilton chapter was not alleged to have caused the death. --It was 100 years ago. While tragic, it was simply an event that happened on the fraternity premises and has nothing to do with a systemic report of hazing or aggression, then or now, and wasn't "national" by any sense of the term.

The citations went downhill from there, in terms of encyclopedic value: One was supported by a Gawker magazine reference, an unreliable source. Several others were reports of loud behavior or parties, or events held during a period of sanction. None of these are particularly noteworthy, even as a note against a specific chapter listing on the chapter list. In no way do they rise to the importance of citing them on a summary article about the national fraternity. Further, in most of these the issue has passed, the sanction is done, and a new crop of members is in the chapter, perhaps only dimly aware that some of their forebears were involved in a passing, local scandal.

I urge inclusion of misconduct items in these pages IF: A) They indicate a systemic, ongoing problem that the national fraternity refuses to cure or condones in any way. Or, B) The issue results in significant national news, like the Duke Lacrosse Team fraudulent rape case, affecting Phi Kappa Psi. Or, C) If the issue results in noteworthy national legislation, like certain hazing events that result in anti-hazing laws. Jax MN (talk) 20:56, 27 April 2021 (UTC)