Talk:Alpha Tau Omega

much of this has been directly copied from a ATO handbook. probably a copywrite violation. i deleted a section that was completely copied. and, not significant enough to be included in a wikipedia article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.172.226.223 (talk) 15:13, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

how is there are copyright problem?, I'm a Brother of the Alpha Tau Omega Fraternity,and therefore I'm entitled to this information just as much as any other Tau. This being said waht is further holding you back from removing the copyright violation from this well planned informational article... Which might I add was displaying incorrect information before I edited it.


 * Hi. It doesn't matter if you are a member or not, Wikipedia has strict laws about "copying and pasting" - i.e. plagiarizing work from another source. In this case from your fraternity's website. Why not re-write the article from scratch (in your own words) as many other fraternities' and sororities' Wikipages have done? Just a friendly suggestion. BME 00:19, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Early History
Alpha Tau Omega began as an idea in the mind of a young Civil War veteran who wanted peace and reconciliation. His name was Otis Allan Glazebrook. His people were defeated, many of their cities burned, much of their countryside ravaged. But Glazebrook, who had helped bury the dead of both sides, believed in a better future. He saw the bitterness and hatred that followed the silencing of the guns and knew that a true peace would come not from force of law, but rather from with the hearts of men who were willing to work to rekindle a spirit of brotherly love. Glazebrook, deeply religious at age 19, believed that younger men like himself might be more willing to accept, forgive, and reunite with the Northern counterparts if motivated by Christian, brotherly love. But he needed an organization, a means of gathering and organizing like-minded people. In Richmond, Glazebrook consulted with University of Virginia alumni who furnished further information concerning fraternities. He discovered that they were not Greek in name only, but Greek throughout. Their mottoes, besides being written in Greek, reflected Greek ideals. Greek philosophy, sometimes tinged with the medieval mysteries and Masonic lore, waste the cultural ideal of the fraternities. The name came spontaneously. He remembered the ancient insignia of the Church, the Tau Cross subjoined by Alpha and Omega. "Alpha" and "Omega" signify to the Christian absolute plenitude or perfection. "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Joined with the Cross the whole signifies that Christ is all in all, the beginning and end of salvation. Having projected a Christian fraternity and appropriated a distinctively Christian symbol for its name, the Cross naturally was its logical emblem. In the center he inscribed a crescent, three stars, the Tau Cross and clasped hands. Upon the upper and lower vertical arms he placed the Greek letters for Alpha and Omega and upon the horizontal arms, the Omega and Alpha letters respectively. On September 11, 1865, Glazebrook invited two close friends, Alfred Marshall and Erskine Mayo Ross, to his home at 114 East Clay Street in Richmond, Virginia. There, in the rear parlor, he read them the Constitution he had written and invited them to sign. As they did, Alpha Tau Omega was born. It was the first fraternity founded after the Civil War, and the first sign of Greek life in the old Confederacy.

I removed the History and placed it here so that someone could use it to start a new history from scratch. --Scaife   (Talk)   Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 06:31, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The copyvio in the History section, a copy and paste from, was replaced by someone. I just removed it again.  If someone would like to write a History section themselves without copying and pasting from a copyrighted web page, please do.  Tempshill 18:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Continuing Edits
I'm going to start: If there's anything else, let me know on my talk page.-Raider ATO 19:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Placing the Alumni in a chart.
 * Overhauling the body in respect to the founders, etc.
 * Adding more pictures.
 * Citing some information to garner more credibility.

Bias tag
I took out the nominantion to check for POV. Whoever put it there didn't even bother giving a reason why. Besides the article says nothing besides the founding story and i see no real bias. Any arguments? Personally i think its too short to be very POVTrey 15:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Getting the History back
How do we get the article history of the article back which is currently sitting at Alpha Tau Omega (United States)?

I've requested a page move to get it back, because of technical stuff ordinary editors can't do it. Ðysepsion † Speak your mind 18:07, 2 March 2009 (UTC) Understood. (And the original question was mine was well)Naraht (talk) 18:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of Standard Infobox
The edit by the anonymous editor deleted the standard {Infobox fraternity} from the article. I propose restoring it. The anonymous editor stated "to see the talk page", but there is no topic here. I am going to restore the see and the refimprove as the change has done nothing in that regard.Naraht (talk) 17:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Needs explanation -- still
Some while back I placed a tag on the article leaving the following text -- "In 2012, the fraternity at the University of Central Florida was suspended for hazing pledges, including forcing one pledge to stand in a bucket of ice water while fraternity members beat him.". It was reverted today because I hadn't left the reason for wanting an explanation on this talk page. Fair enough, but the situation remains where the article is talking about pledge/pledges. That might be understood in the USA but this is not a US-centric pedia. So the term still needs explaining, and I have reinstated the tag. Moriori (talk) 00:47, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I had the same problem (being a Brit). I made some guesses, dug about a bit and added a couple of links, including one from pledge.  Does that fix it?  I mean, does that give enough explanation?  I'm thinking we probably can clear the "explain" tag?  --'' SquisherDa (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I had the same problem (being a Brit). I made some guesses, dug about a bit and added a couple of links, including one from pledge.  Does that fix it?  I mean, does that give enough explanation?  I'm thinking we probably can clear the "explain" tag?  --'' SquisherDa (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Providing a reference via Google Drive
I have a copy of the 1936 Palm which discusses in great detail the founding and the charter members. I obtained this article via a copy made by the University of Illinois library. I have placed this article on my Google drive and would like to provide it as a reference.

The Lexington Chapters

Is this allowable? Thoughts?

Holtrk85 (talk) 04:41, 27 April 2024 (UTC)