Talk:Altay (main battle tank)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

Pagemoved to Altay (tank). Vegaswikian (talk) 01:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

MİTÜP Altay → Altay –
 * ''This is an old settled move request which was given a new header at 12:18, 4 July 2011 by someone as a suggested discussed move MİTÜP Altay → Altay. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:44, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * MİTÜP Altay → Altay — No need to use MITUP acronym (which means only national tnak project), since the project name was changed by undersecretariat of defence and the main battle tank is called Altay nowadays.. — EfsunAskeri (talk) 13:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Survey

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Support Altay is the proper name for the tank, this is the official project name — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hudavendigar (talk • contribs)


 * Oppose. The mountains/region, people, or republic are more important than the tank. Go with Altay (tank) as suggested below.  —  AjaxSmack   22:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:


 * Altay is a disambiguation page. Takabeg (talk) 12:27, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * What means "MKE Reactive Composite Armor"? The Altay tank will be armored by Roketsan's composite technology to build armor for the new tank. MKE will produce other things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.210.62.166 (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Most people know "Altay" or "Altai" as a range of mountains, etc, not an army tank. Leave the plain name as a disambig page. Move to Altay (tank)? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:27, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I think Altay (tank) is acceptable. Takabeg (talk) 00:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Armament Smoothbore GUN ! is INCORRECT
Question for Moderators. I have issue with the Armament section. It says this uses a GERMAN Rheinmetall L/55-based MKEK 120mm smoothbore gun. This is not true. I can't find ANY SOURCE that says Turkey is licensing this gun from Germany. This smoothbore is actually a Korean design if I'm not mistaken. Can we have someone edit the details to be correct. There is no contribution by Germany to this tank. Germany has SANCTIONS on turkey for involvement with Syria. Please lets be correct.--2603:8090:1301:72D:7822:DCB3:3152:CFBD (talk) 02:02, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Ready For Production
I removed the line about Altay has completed testing and ready for production. This is a false claim, also source was "Dünya Times", which is not a reliable source, as they mentioned Cihan News Agency as their source.

To my knowledge, most of R&D is done, but two prototypes are scheduled to be built, dubbed "PV-1" and "PV-2" for final testing with all operational subsystems, fire control systems and armour included. Up to this point, hull and drivetrain, fire control systems and armour were being developed independently but they are not put together and undergone integration testing.

I'll check my sources and post references on this topic soon.Heruamarth (talk) 00:39, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

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possible image?
FWIW, there's apparently an image available, but I dunno how to migrate it over to this Wikipedia. Guy1890 (talk) 03:56, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Moved from ScrapIronIV's talk page
Hello There is a Reason why I Have To Do these.And Malayaian Army Need More MBT.Don't Worry That Was A Good Blog.149.129.32.89 (talk) 14:27, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * From a Wikipedia perspective, this is not a "good blog" - blogs are not a reliable source. Additionally, you need to read WP:CRYSTAL as the blog is only discussing the possibility of purchasing the tank.  No order has been placed, and no decision has been made.  The content is inappropriate to the article, and will be removed.  Scr ★ pIron IV 14:34, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Please Don't Change It.No Need The Sources.I Think Is True.149.129.32.89 (talk) 14:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * This is not a question of "truth" but rather one of verifiability. The information does not belong in the article, unless it is accompanied by verifiable, reliable, sources. I am not the only editor which has removed this information.  Scr ★ pIron IV 14:57, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

See Malaysian Defences.149.129.32.89 (talk) 15:02, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Moving this conversation to the article talk page  Scr ★ pIron IV 15:33, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

New tank?
Is this actually a new design, or a modified South Korean K2 Black Panther? The article suggests the latter. But this should be confirmed, and if so noted in the introduction. As drafted the article implies that it is both an entirely new indigenous design, and a modified K2. It obviously cannot be both.Royalcourtier (talk) 21:57, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Under the design section, it is fairly clearly specified that it is a new design which leverages some technologies from the K2 through international agreement. What is confusing you?  Scr ★ pIron IV 22:06, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

This is new tank. Technical support has been received from South Korea, but it also has very different characteristics. It's also much more expensive. Türkoğlu1927 (talk) 10:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

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Major edits (August 2021)
I have greatly improved this article. I am a Bangladeshi wikipedian. Love from Bangladesh to Turkey 🇧🇩🇹🇷. List of my edits: (1) Added latest information, (2) Added more references, (3) Corrected misinformation, (4) Added new section, (5) Merged history related sections.Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 22:23, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

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