Talk:Alternative rock/Archive 3

The Smiths 'limited chart success"
This statement is just factually incorrect. In the UK: 4 studio albums all reached #1 or #2. A live album that reached #2. A compilation that went to #1 and a second that reached #2 and two more than hit the top 10. 5 platinum albums. 10 top 20 singles, 18 top 30 hits in total. 'Limited chart success' couldn't be further from the truth. Vauxhall1964 (talk) 00:51, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

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This became a rap genre on SoundCloud due to the fact that this is a rock genre.
Famous rap artists had pleaded guilty not to, but instep of this FLAWDA was given as Alternative Rock from its hip hop genre. AdwenKnowItAll (talk) 22:27, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Alternative pop
Does Alternative pop warrant it’s own page? It is obviously not a direct synonym with alternative rock. Dekai Averett (talk) 08:42, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Dekai - I suppose it could, looking at it as a subset, so to speak, of the Alt scene, but Alt-Pop was a logical path for the music to follow so I don't consider "Alt-Pop" to be a separate genre of the entire alternative music scene. There were SO MANY subsets of the entire scene that, if one were to "tease" them all apart into their separate contributions well, you'd go nuts trying to separate all of it!

I WAS in the middle of re-writing portions of the "Alternative Rock" Wiki page because it gives the reader the impression that Alt-ROCK came first when it was quite the opposite. Electronic/synthesizer-heavy bands were the first bands with "The Velvet Underground" considered by many to have been the first Alternative band. However, two bands, "Neu!" (ca.1975)(ca.1970) and "CAN" were among the first to begin experimenting with heavy synthesizer use, repetitive drums, and two "CAN" tracks in particular, Vitamin C and "Mother Sky" " are obviously very important links in the history of alternative music that would soon follow in the 1980s. Here's a tune by "Neu!" -.

Prior to "CAN" & "Neu!" was "The Velvet Underground", a band, of sorts (more of an experimental music effort) formed in 1967 by Lou Reed (who went on to be one of the greatest alternative music artists), John Cale, guitarist Sterling Morrison, and drummer Angus MacLise. The Underground sprang from the famous,, "bohemian"/ avant-garde art-house of Andy Warhol, and he briefly managed the band. The band saw little commercial success at the time but now The Underground is considered to be one of the most influential bands in rock, underground, experimental, and alternative music. And THAT sentence sums up my point perfectly - the roots of alternative music run DEEP and we had multiple terms for the musical genera. Alternative, Punk, New Wave, underground, experimental (Depeche Mode's early albums contain loads of experimental material). We were raving, most likely, before you were even born and Extacy was a LEGAL drug, for a time. We dressed to thrill, kill, and looked beautiful every time we went clubbing. When rap became increasingly popular, I kNEW that it was over and was so saddened to see it all end because we had the BESt times, the best clubs, drugs, clothes, and FUN! We'd have MUCH less violence in the world today if this generation of Millenials would just go out clubbing and stop being so damn serious. Oh, I was in my early 20's back then; now I'm 57 and STILL listening to albums from the '80s!

Cheers, Debbe Debbe Guerry-Ferris (talk) 03:11, 3 November, TX.Prowriter (talk) 09:14, 3 November 2020 (UTC)2020 (CST)
 * I moved the stuff about alt-pop from the indie pop section to teen pop but people were not happy over there either...please see the discussion at Talk:Teen pop — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.238.125 (talk) 14:12, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Canada's role in alternative rock
This page is entirely focused on US and UK bands, and entirely ignores the major Canadian scene which continues to be influential to this day 2604:CA00:129:ADF5:0:0:A62:453B (talk) 03:56, 28 August 2022 (UTC)