Talk:Ambrose St John

And to you especially, dear AMBROSE ST. JOHN
And to you especially, dear AMBROSE ST. JOHN; whom God gave me, when He took every one else away; who are the link between my old life and my new; who have now for twenty-one years been so devoted to me, so patient, so zealous, so tender; who have let me lean so hard upon you; who have watched me so narrowly; who have never thought of yourself, if I was in question. (John Henry Newman, APOLOGIA PRO VITA SUA)--217.238.32.242 (talk) 13:57, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


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Ambrose Maria St. John
Ambrose Maria St John was the grandson of St Andrew St John, Dean of Worcester. He was educated at Westminster School, and went up to Christ Church College, Oxford, in 1834. He took his B.A. degree in 1837, and was elected to a studentship in 1838, which he held until 1845. He was a keen Hebrew scholar, having been a pupil of Pusey’s, and a keen general orientalist as his books in the Oratory Library witness; he was also a good classicist.He took orders soon after his degree, and from 1841-43 was curate to Newman’s intimate friend Henry Wilberforce, first at Bransgore, in the New Forest, and then at Walmer, near Deal. It was Wilberforce who was to provide the link with Newman, who first met St John at the consecration of the Church at Ampfield, in John Keble’s parish, in April 1841. In August 1843, suffering increasing doubts about the Church of England, he went to live at Littlemore. He left in September 1845 for a visit to Prior Park, and, after three days there, was received into the Roman Catholic Church. He studied for the priesthood in Rome with Newman, and was one of the founder members of the English Oratory. He remained at the Birmingham Oratory for the rest of his life, and cheerfully gave himself to whatever tasks he was required for, the most unexpected being the oversight of the Oratory School from 1862 until 1873. Newman paid him an important tribute in the dedication to the Apologia pro Vita Sua.--79.222.223.231 (talk) 09:27, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

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