Talk:America's Got Talent season 4

Hello
Hello all. Just to let people know that, barring any major objections, I plan to follow the successful pattern from the last two seasons for organizing this page as the season progresses. Here you can see how last year's article ended up looking just under a week after the first episode aired.

Basically, during the preliminary round, each act gets a line, with acts that passed and acts that were eliminated separated into two sections. Then, during the later round, the entries from the "advanced" section can be moved down to be added to with their later performances. Each act's information will eventually end up all together at whatever point they are finally eliminated or win. - TexasAndroid (talk) 00:51, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Useless update tags
I see no real usefulness to the Update tags being rapidly placed on the page. From two years of history working on the pages for this show, the data for each episode is nicely filled in within 24 or 48 hours of broadcast. I know that, at a worst case, I generally fill it in myself, or finish the core fill-in job, the next day when I get home from work, and after the online summaries have been posted so I have good sourcing for all the act names. Other people fill it in as they can. So it gets updated in a quite timely manner already.

But now we are having these unsightly Update tags dropped on the page almost immediately after broadcast. And I just do not understand what the desired purpose of them is. Even faster updates? The page is already updated quite rapidly, IMHO. The tags do not help the situation, do not help to bring in additional people to update it any faster, so why are they being dropped on the page?

I will not get into a revert war on the tags today, but this appears to be a likely ongoing situation, so it would be good if we could come to some consensus about whether these tags do help the situation on this page, and thus whether or not they should be used here. - TexasAndroid (talk) 12:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Hurricane Trickers Description Accuracy
Is it accurate to call the Hurricane Tricksters "precision martial artists"? They seem more like "extreme martial artists" or "trickers". HaikenEdge (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I had a whole discussion typed out, then I found the appropriate link for what Tricking is. That pretty much answers what they are.  It's perfectly acceptable to use a less common term for what a group does, if a link can be given to a WP page detailing out what the term means.  We end up with a one word description, but an easy link to much more detailed information.  I've gone ahead and done this.  In general, please feel free to be bold and make such changes as you feel are appropriate.  - TexasAndroid (talk) 17:59, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Advanced/Rejected
Is there any information that lists who advanced and who was eliminated? The article only shows a list of rejected. Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.64.244.149 (talk) 15:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The acts that were passed through during the preliminary rounds were moved down yesterday to the section for the Las Vegas Week second round. In that section they are being sorted out by result as the results are known.  Check out the Table of Contents at the top of the page, and you can see the sections we have so far.  "First Cut", "Part One Cut", "Top 40", and "Unknown" so far.  Tonight's episode will add a "Part Two Cut" section.  Ideally, once everything has shaken out from the second round, we'll have four sections of cuts (First, Part 1, Part 2, and Unknown) and the Top 40.  At that point Unknown will cover acts that were not shown explicitly cut, but are not in the Top 40, and thus are cut, but it's not know at what point in the callbacks they were cut.  The days of the callbacks always leave the page in a bit of a state of flux, as we cut down rapidly from a much larger number of acts to 20 or 40.  This year is no exception, and the page is right now a bit chaotic.  It'll settle down in the next day or two as we get the information on the remainder of the Top 40. Does that answer your question? - TexasAndroid (talk) 20:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Curveball
I would be willing to bet good money that the curveball turns out to be some sort of Wildcard act from among the eliminated acts. Such has worked well for AGT in the past, and gets NBC an extra few episodes of a hot show if they bring in enough acts to have an actual Wildcard episode. How many eliminated acts could return, and how they would be picked, I cannot even begin to guess. Purely my speculation, and thus this is here and not on the article page :), but that's my guess as to what the curveball is about. - TexasAndroid (talk) 15:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

AGT Website Announces Wildcards
The 8 wildcard acts, as shown in the top 40/top 48 picture gallery.
 * Beale Street Flippers
 * Drew Stevyns
 * Jay Mattioli
 * Lake Houston Dance
 * SQ Entertainment
 * Diva League
 * Lollipop Girls
 * U4ria Dance Crew

 69.37.53.51 (talk) 11:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks!!!! I've incorporated this information into the page. - TexasAndroid (talk) 13:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

elimination table
it looks good but add ticks where the judges voted to save. look at the Britain's got talent section. If a judge votes for an act who they buzzed then u can do a half and half. 92.4.98.41 (talk) 17:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Agreed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.70.31.13 (talk) 20:08, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Joint vote?
Is it true that all three judges voted for "The Voices of Glory" and "The Fab Five" simultaneously during the Round 1 Semi-finals? --67.169.26.230 (talk) 00:04, 22 August 2011 (UTC) I


 * yes the judges jointly made an announcement that they couldn't eliminate either and so voted all of them through ( there were no separate judges' votes) Gamer9832 (talk) 22:03, 27 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Where did you get that information from? Do you have any source why they didn't vote between two acts separately? --67.169.26.230 (talk) 22:35, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


 * RNO summary, near the end states the judges' joint vote: http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article10528.art&page=1 Gamer9832 (talk) 03:15, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Citation has been added into the article. --67.169.26.230 (talk) 05:36, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

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