Talk:American Dad! season 9

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because... (because see http://www.fox.com/americandad/recaps/season-8/episode-4 and http://www.tv.com/shows/american-dad/episodes/ ) --Pascals99 (talk) 18:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Contents Box Removal
I think the contents box needs to be removed, since TV season episode lists don't usually seem to have one, but I don't know how to do so. Alphius (talk) 03:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I have removed it. Alphius (talk) 04:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Funny, most of the pages I've seen do have it -- especially ones that lots of content. I realize that this page only has four sections (which, by default, triggers the table of contents), but it's still useful for navigating through the page. Why do you want it removed? Davejohnsan (talk) 04:54, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I oppose the decision to remove the ToC. I support Davejohnsan's decision to revert. Having a ToC does indeed make pages easier to navigate. I can think of no compelling reason not to have one. Further I note that Davejohnsan does much commendable work on these and other related pages; my own personal policy - not wikipedia policy, of course - is to defer to senior editors in such matters especially where the editor in question does the bulk of reverting vandalism and erroneous edits. As they do most of the time-consuming, tedious tasks on these pages, the pages should ideally be laid out in such a way to facilitate them. - Fanthrillers (talk) 20:17, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * There's a reason articles with 3 or more sections have a TOC. Let's say this show had 20+ episode seasons, would you rather scroll to get below the Episode List or quickly navigate to it? TOC should stay, as it is Wiki-standard, even if only a Reference section is below a table. — WylieCoyote 08:21, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Capitalization of episode titles
There has been a slight ongoing issue with the capitalization of episode titles. Most of them involve prepositions, punctuation, etc. Whether or not it is standard to capitalize or not to capitalize a word shouldn't be the issue here; it's that we shouldn't stray from the exact format seen in the network's press release. I realize I've been very bold -- maybe even stubborn -- about this issue, but I'm always willing to listen to someone who wants to try to change my view point. Davejohnsan (talk) 00:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The way I see it is we should just follow what the press releases do unless they've made a grammatical error, like capitalizing "the" or "and" in the middle of a sentence. I remember a debate like this a while back on The Mentalist, where the CBS press releases kept spelling the surname of writer David Appelbaum incorrectly, citing it as Applebaum. In cases like that it's okay to correct it. Other than that we should just stick to the press releases. It's not uncommon, particularly for comedy shows, to have episode titles contain deliberate spelling or grammatical errors. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 01:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I concur with Davejohnsan and Schrutedit08. This same battle occurs with book titles, especially where British vs. American spelling differences erupt. In one wiki battle that I was involved in last summer, a British publisher used the American spelling "authorized" in the book's title. With book titles, we use the title that appears on the book's title page even if not entirely correct. As for capitalization of "and" and "is", I prefer to leave them lower-case but will defer to senior editors who prefer to follow the show's own spelling conventions provided those spelling conventions are consistent per title. In other words, if different press releases and the show's own website can't agree whether to consistently capitilize articles, prepositions, conjunctions in the specific title then I suggest we follow regular spelling conventions and in most instances leave them undercase. Thanks for hearing me out and sorry for being so verbose! - Fantr (talk) 18:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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150th episode???
How come so many websites around the Web are advertising "Lost in Space" as the 150th episode? Here at Wikipedia, we have it marked as episode 151, and it seems pretty clear from our information at least that it is in fact episode 151. I've yet to see an external websites that refer to tonight's "Lost in Space" episode as episode 151 however: As examples:, , , etc. At first, I was just attributing the inconsistency to external websites having made an error, perhaps possibly even referring to Wikipedia and mistaking information that reads "150 episodes" as being in reference to the upcoming episode. Thoughts? AmericanDad86 (talk) 12:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, this explains it. The official "American Dad!" website by Fox has advertised "Lost in Space" as the 150th episode (at least as of today's date May 5, 2013). Thoughts? AmericanDad86 (talk) 13:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

They did the same thing with The Simpsons. Barting Over was advertised as the 300th, but it was really the 302nd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angry Dad (talk • contribs) 22:08, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

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