Talk:American Family Field

Bowling
All these discussions about Miller Park and no reference in the whole article to the Pro Bowling event that took place there a couple years ago. D-Clancy 00:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Bud Selig's popularity
"Due to the fact that owner Bud Selig was highly unpopular locally"? I seem to recall going to games at County Stadium where everyone was holding up signs that said "Saint Selig, Please Save The Brewers" and stuff like that. When the possibility of not getting a new stadium an possibly losing the team arose, Selig was incredibly popular. Wasn't he? I certainly wouldn't call it a "fact" that he was highly unpopular locally. At least not with respect to the stadium. Maybe with respect to putting his stupid daughter in charge of the team... Bud was popular before and after becoming commisioner.
 * I would say he was popular until he became commisioner in '92 after that it was all downhill for the Brewers. Then he handed the team to his useless daughter.  His popularity wasnt too high after that.

When Bud "gave" the team to his daughter Wendy, who wouldn't know baseball if one hit her in the head, things got worse. The taxpayers rejected public taxation for a new stadium. Selig whined to then governor Jim Doyle and had taxation approved anyway. The entire stadium could have been paid off over a decade ago, but the Brewers decided to milk it despite record profits and keep screwing residents of these five counties. 172.58.75.15 (talk) 17:19, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

The Keg?
Who calls it that?
 * I have never heard it called that.--ChesterMarcol 00:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I have never heard it called the The Keg either. EVER. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PowerSurge1000 (talk • contribs) 17:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Miller Park or Field
Is it called Miller Park or Miller Field, or both interchangeably? &mdash;Stormie 05:45, Jun 25, 2004 (UTC)


 * Miller Park. --WikiFan04 12:54, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

Brewer's performance
I don't see the need for the paragraph on the Brewer's performance in the new stadium ("Despite the new stadium...."). This adds little utility to an article about the stadium itself.--michael zimmer 20:49, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Better Picture
Seriously, somebody needs to get a picture of Miller Park when it is both during the day, and during a day that doesn't have extensive cloud coverage. It would look a lot more welcoming. BirdValiant 04:32, 19 April 2006 (UTC) --We need a updated pic of miller park showing the picnic area and the new OFT scoreboard. --Adamb10 23:25, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Wrigley Field North
If you're going to retain that section, it would also be worth mentioning that Chicagoans have a long tradition of going to watch major league ball in Milwaukee. This goes back to the 1950s when frustrated Cubs fans used to make the quick drive north to watch the Braves. When the Braves tied for the flag in 1959 and the Sox won the pennant, it looked like a dream come true. However, the dream took a rude awakening when the Dodgers beat the Braves in a playoff and then defeated the White Sox. Later, the Sox played a series of home games in Milwaukee. And it is fair to assume that part of the reason Selig was so willing to switch the Brew-has to the N.L. was in hopes of drawing Cubs fans as they did during 1953-1965. Wahkeenah 06:11, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds like you would do a pretty nice job with that.--J3wishVulcan 13:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

RIDICLOUS!!! Why should a nickname that is by no means in wide spread usage be part of the official Wiki page about our ball park!!! This needs to be removed right away! —Preceding unsigned comment added by . 69.76.92.189 (talk • contribs)
 * If it is notable enough for an official "Take Back Miller Park" campaign by the Brewers, it is notable enough for mention here. --mtz206 (talk) 02:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

But this was an event that only lasted a couple hours and is related to only a couple games (maybe 6) out of the entire season. The Cubs fan who wrote this section seems to have an agenda to promote the Cubs not describe Miller Park. There are many elements of Miller Park that are there every day of the year and not mentioned in this article. Even the statement that most of the fans present for Brewers - Cubs games at Miller Park are Cubs fans is debatable. While it is true that many Cubs fans come north for those games there is a higher demand for those tickets amongst Brewers fans and many more Brewers fans are also present than for most other games throughout the season. This is likely caused by the fact that Brewers fans view the Cubs as a rival. --JacobSkibba

"Miller Park is affectionately called "The Keg" and "World's Biggest Bar" by Milwaukee fans for the large quantity of alcoholic beverages" I have been from the area my whole life and attend games several times a season and have never seen this done. This may need to be toned down some as well as the cub thing... What do other think? out with tbe keg and bar comment? TheRanger 00:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Hearing no other comments about the Keg nick name, I rewrote it to tone down the drunken city look and added some facts to the Cubs game problems and when those games started to sell out. TheRanger 03:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I would agree that this does not belong in the article.--ChesterMarcol 22:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

The stuff about drunken fans is a sour-grapes cheap shot. If it weren't for the Cubs fans, Miller's upper deck would be closed all the time (there's a cheap shot right back at 'em). Ironically, I can remember when the Cubs used to close their upper deck during weekday games. They still made a profit, as the top major league salary in those days was about what the minimum is nowadays. Wahkeenah 22:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

This section should be removed and put up on the Brewers-Cubs Series page because it has nothing to do with the physical structure of Miller Park, which is what this article is supposed to be about. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia not a place for you dumb asses to argue --ChesterMarcol 01:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Your first sentence has merit. Your second sentence takes you down the same road it criticizes. Wahkeenah 01:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes it does, but that doesn't mean the article shouldnt be changed.--ChesterMarcol 01:58, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * What's stopping you? Wahkeenah 02:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Just thought I would get in on the discussion and try to build some kind of consensus, since it has been changed and changed back several times already.--ChesterMarcol 02:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Alas, the old edit war problem. Maybe you could first add the pertinent info to the Cubs-Brewers page, and then work on at least toning down the POV-pushing in this article. If they revert it back to POV-pushing, you can ask an admin for help. If pushy editors get blocked, it can cool their jets for awhile and sometimes (if you're lucky) make them leave altogether. Wahkeenah 02:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Positive impact of Miller Park
The discussion of Miller Park particularly its construction has a negative tone and fails to mention any of the positive impacts that building the stadium had. The examples that immediately come to mind is that the building of Miller Park kept the Brewers in Milwaukee and has given them new streams of revenue that have allowed them to increase team payroll and become more competitive. --Jacobskibba 16:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Be bold and add them. --mtz206 (talk) 18:26, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Bob Uecker seats
Could someone add something to the article about the infamous "Bob Uecker" seats, ideally with a diagram showing their location? I'd also love to see a picture of the field taken from the seats. Robert K S 22:24, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Adding a section about the Uecker seats that sell day of game for $1 is a great idea. However, a diagram is harder as they are in a lot of sections, they are the blocked view seats, however they really are not that bad at all its a real bargin to see a game for such a low price. TheRanger 00:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Aha, so there are lots of Uecker seats there. Yet not a one in the front rooooow. Wahkeenah 01:14, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Does anyone have a full list of Uecker seats? I don't think a little insert box listing them all would be unwarranted. Robert K S 06:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The original "Bob Uecker seats" from the Miller Lite ad would be the back row of the right field upper deck at Yankee Stadium. Wahkeenah 10:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC) thank you

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Events
Removed the "subtle" (if you're a 12 year old) dig at President Bush being second to Selig to throw out the pitch "MUCH TO THE DELIGHT OF THE CROWD". Biased? It's debatable, extraneous? ABSOLUTELY!
 * At this point in time, though, it's hard to tell which of them would get the bigger BOO. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 00:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Page move
Let the plain name be the disambig page. This discussion has run long enough. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:44, 9 May 2009 (UTC) Was there any discussion before the page was moved from Miller Park to Miller Park (Milwaukee)? Since the disambig page is still at Miller Park (disambiguation), and it appears that the Brewers' home is by far the most notable use of the name, I'd move this page back to plain Miller Park. -- χγʒ͡ʒγʋᾳ (talk) 18:30, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, go right ahead. BirdValiant (talk) 19:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thats not necessarially true. A google search of "Miller Park" shows only 11 of the first 20 hits having to do with the ballpark.  Clearly not enough to avoid a disambiguation page Frank Anchor Talk to me  (R-OH) 19:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The DAB page is necessary.  Also right now Miller Park and Miller Park (disambiguation) currently both show the list of all of the Miller Parks <Baseballfan789 (talk) 19:26, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, now that the plain Miller Park is a disambig, not a redirect, all is right with the world. Well, at least this tiny, tiny niche of it.  Case closed.  -- χγʒ͡ʒγʋᾳ (talk) 20:44, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The results of the Google Search are still true. But looking at the number of page views from http://stats.grok.se/ (for the period of 200903) Miller Park (Milwaukee) had over 1800 more page views than every other page listed on the disambig combined (including the disambig itself). Also, it had nearly 4000 more views than the second most viewed page, which was the disambig page. boelter (talk) 07:29, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

This move was NOT appropriate. You go with the most commonly-used name as the one without parens, and the ballpark is the only one that would be in the national consciousness. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 07:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Then change it. When I made my comments last year, I was unaware of the trends that User:Boelter stated above.  These show that the ballpark is clearly the most looked up of all the Miller Park's (although I thought that anyway I didn't see there being that much of a difference.   Frank Anchor Talk 14:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You are being generous with the phrase "national consciousness". Let's leave the page pointed at the disambig and avoid this confrontational editing approach. • Freechild   'sup?   15:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Of the various Miller Parks listed on the disambiguation page, only the ballpark is likely to be well known outside of the city it's in. I don't recall any of those others ever being mentioned on ESPN, for example. It was right the way it was. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 16:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Feel free to revert Miller Park to a disambiguation page. There doesn't seem to be much consensus that Miller Park (Milwaukee) should be the main page, even though it seems there is agreement that it is likely to be the Miller Park people look for most often. My intention was not meant to be confrontational, and I did not expect to start any turf wars. boelter (talk) 16:22, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Miller Park (Milwaukee) →  — Miller Park already redirects to this page. —
 * The redirect was an apparently results of an undiscussed copy-paste move of the disambiguation page. Correction, there was some more or less inconclusive discussion at Talk:Miller_Park_(Milwaukee). older ≠ wiser 21:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Page Miller Park is now a disambig page. Best leave it like that. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like the Brewers' stadium is the primary topic for Miller Park. Miller Park (Milwaukee) got 5836 page views in March 09; none of the other articles on the disambig page got more than a couple of hundred page views.  Considering the google counterargument, I count 12 links referring to the Brewers' park in the top 20 google hits for "Miller Park"; the only other subject to get more than one reference in the top 20, Joaquin Miller Park, gets three links.  "Miller Park" Milwaukee gets 454K ghits while "Miller Park" Joaquin gets 151K ghits.  Thus I support moving Miller Park (Milwaukee) to Miller Park and putting the disambig page at Miller Park (disambiguation).  Baileypalblue (talk) 08:18, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * But it is the primary meaning among people who have no interest in baseball, or to people who live in baseball-less countries (e.g. Britain)? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say it's the primary meaning in the US, even for non-baseball fans. I can't comment from personal knowledge on the situation in Britain, though Miller Park, Preston seems pretty obscure compared to the other uses (24K ghits).  However, the previously listed evidence suggests it's the primary topic for the vast majority of en:wiki users, and that's good enough; the criteria at Disambiguation don't require that a subject be the primary topic for every user, just that it be "significantly more commonly searched for and read than other meanings".  If a subject had to be the primary topic among people who don't know or care about it in order to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, hardly any subjects would qualify.  Baileypalblue (talk) 09:18, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The Cubs box
The Cubs template keeps repeatedly popping up even though the Chicago Cubs have NEVER EVER played a home game (temporary or other wise) at Miller Park Packerfan386 (talk) 11:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was the Astros who played those home games a few years ago, with the Cubs ostensibly as visitors, even though most of the spectators were Cubs rooters. The Astros template could be there, though. As could the Indians, who played a snowed-out home series there a few years back. Miller Park is kind of like Commissioner Selig's "Designated Pinch-Ballpark". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:53, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Fence heights?
If anyone knows how high the fences are in the outfield, we'd sure like to know.

Yugiohfan2010 (talk) 18:27, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

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Requested move 2 May 2018

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: consensus to move the pages at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 15:24, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

– WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. This was last discussed nine years ago as seen above. In that time, it's pretty clear the ballpark is the most sought after page, with page views far exceeding any other topic on the disambiguation page. |Miller_Park_(Bloomington,_Illinois)|Miller_Park_Zoo|Miller_Park_(Omaha,_Nebraska)|Miller_Park,_Preston|Miller_Park Page view stats clearly show that the ballpark receives on average orders of magnitude more views than all other dab page entries combined. Readers clearly want the ballpark.oknazevad (talk) 11:07, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Miller Park (Milwaukee) → Miller Park
 * Miller Park → Miller Park (disambiguation)


 * Support per nom; it now seems that this Miller Park is the primary topic. NatureBoyMD (talk) 13:25, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Support, clear primary topic. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 16:37, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Support move. The ballpark is clearly the primary topic.  ONR  (talk)  22:53, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Support All signs show a clear primary topic.--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:02, 3 May 2018 (UTC)


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Impending move
The park's name will change to American Family Field on 1/1/21. I will make the move and fix whatever is needed at that point. --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 22:27, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Sensory friendly
Copied content from Sensory friendly; see that page's history for attribution Bruxton (talk) 21:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)