Talk:American Freedom Coalition

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Some opponents of the Unification Church try repeatedly to discredit it, by claiming (a) that the church has sinister motives and (b) that it wrongly hides these sinister motives via a cloak of innocuous associations.

These leads to an environment where, no matter what good the church tries to do, people shy away from involvment lest they be tarnished with the same brush.

This puts the church between a rock and a hard place. If it does everything independently, critics accuse it of being stand-offish and uncooperative; but if it tries to cooperate with existing organizations, people protest that "those Moonies" are sticking their noses in.

If the church tries to downplay its connection with an existing or new organization, so that people can do some good without being "outed" as "working with Moonies", someone always manages to discover the connection and accuse the church of "deception".

I guess critics just want us to shut up and go away. Well, too bad, we won't. So there. Nyaah.
 * Are you arguing for or against the idea that this is a Unificationist front? (And who are you?) Vicki Rosenzweig

Serious problem: what are "traditional values" and what does "the sanctity of life" mean in this context? Is this code for "anti-abortion"? Does AFC follow the Catholic church's opposition to the death penalty? Are they pacifists? (Any of these positions can be labeled as being in favor of "the sanctity of life".) Vicki Rosenzweig


 * Moved from article: ' such as "traditional values, the sanctity of life, and'
 * As noted above, "traditional values" can mean almost anything, and "sanctity of life" could be code for vegetarianism or anti-vivisection, as well as (I'd guess more likely here, but I would be guessing) opposition to abortion or the death penalty. Vicki Rosenzweig 04:07 Feb 7, 2003 (UTC)

I just did a Yahoo search and the AFC does not seem to exist anymore. The Christianity Today article is a good source, but otherwise it was mostly left-wing blogs warning us about the dangers of the AFC. I would vote to delete the article, for lack of sources not lack of notability. It had notability, but that was like 20 years ago. Steve Dufour (talk) 21:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)