Talk:American Record Company

Other American Record Company
There was another American Record Company that was active in the 30s. Dogru144 (talk) 19:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, for example, the earliest "ARC" Lead Belly recordings. Disambiguation (or better treatment, if the companies are related) is needed.  Wareh (talk) 18:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * What? The ARC that put out early Leadbelly (and a huge amount of other important stuff) was the unrelated American Record Corporation. There's already a link to the article about that company at the top of this article. What is the disambiguation which needs improvement, and what if any evidence is there for some different "American Record Company" active in the 1930s? Wondering, Infrogmation (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I can't believe I missed the distinguish dabhat at the top of this article. Many printed sources confuse the two (so there is unfortunately plenty of unreliable evidence), and I introduced their error into Alberta (blues) (the new article I just created, and which I've now corrected).  I've also alphabetized ARC so that people looking there will see the two alternatives next to each other.  I can only speak for myself, but I'd be willing to bet this accounts for the whole confusion. Wareh (talk) 14:13, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. I just noticed that the other article originally had "American Record Company" and kept it for almost five years, until . (1) This helps explain the confusion at the time of Dogru144's original question.  (2) More importantly, you sound confident, but may I ask, how sure are you?  What reliable evidence do you have that our unsourced Wikipedia article is correct and the printed sources that call the 30's outfit "Company" are wrong?  It would be nice to have something more authoritative than the ample misinformation (assuming it is misinformation) presented in the article American Record Corporation.  Wareh (talk) 14:34, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

This appears very murky and doubtful based on an online search for sources whose critical consideration of such niceties might be relied on. I am going to post the question about ARC's actual name, with the best evidence I've been able to find (unfortunately nothing slam-dunk, but enough to create more doubt in my mind), over at Talk:American Record Corporation, where it belongs. Wareh (talk) 16:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't find it "murky" at all. Look at the label at the bottom of this page: http://dismuke.org/how/prev3-05.html This was a label that the 1930s ARC used for products not meant for general public consumption, and as you can see the "C" stands for "Corporation," not "Company." "ARCo" is the agreed upon nomenclature among collectors for American Record Company listings; the label operated in direct defiance to the flat disc patents and was eventually brought down by them by 1908. ARC was a combine of labels that formed in 1929 and throughout the depression bought up bigger labels as they failed; despite the value of the contracts of the artists thereon, ARC was a small company. There is just no relationship between ARCo and ARC. Also, the revival of the ARC logo by Maurice White in 1979 did not re-establish the ARC company; he may have picked the name ARC because it was an imprint that Columbia Records already owned and would not need to file a new trademark for. Again; no relationship to the older company.Pinikadia 18:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)Pinikadia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pinikadia (talk • contribs)