Talk:American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals/Archive 1

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They run commercials with nightmare-inducing images that should have a warning for children and sensitive adults. In one northern California market these horrific ads run daily, if not hourly. Eventually this emotional blackmail will backfire when the psychological damage is considered.

https://activistfacts.com/organizations/american-society-for-the-prevention-of-cruelty-to-animals-aspca/

First?
It want the first in the Western hemisphere - the RSPCA was founded about 40 years earlier.

Ed Sayres, although president of the San Francisco SPCA for a few years, was not the individual associated with the "hotel-like" facilities of the shelter. That individual was Richard Avanzino, who established new standards for animal adoption housing.

and "hotel-like" facilities in a weasel word. 195.134.69.213 06:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

it is only right if animals are not put to sleep if no one adopts them the people at the animal shelter should take an animal home for a day and see if they like that and wha t do you know... there might oneless animal in the adoption center. and if you do not like that dog you could always send it to another adoption center. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.171.122 (talk) 23:33, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Contradiction
The ASPCA is listed under List of animal welfare groups, however, it says here that the ASPCA lobbies for animal rights legislation. Is the ASPCA pro animal rights or animal welfare?Ziiv (talk) 05:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The statement on its website about food: "The ASPCA believes that whether or not to consume animals, and animal products such as milk and eggs, is a personal and private determination that must be left to each individual. However, the ASPCA firmly believes that animals who are bred, raised and killed or harvested for human consumption, like all animals, are entitled to protection from distress and suffering during their lives and at the time of their deaths." makes it pretty clear that the ASPCA is an animal welfare, not an animal rights organization. MikeHobday (talk) 16:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Needs Work
The ASPCA is clearly a notable org, but this article reads like little more than a promotional puff -- it needs external refs and to be expanded TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 18:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I am heavily involved with the ASPCA, and I was utterly shocked when I saw this article! I plan to work on it when time allows. Unfortunately time is very scarce for me lately. Amor amor (talk) 08:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Same here, I meant to work on it a month ago, but haven't gotten to it yet. I only discovered the sad state when I merged something else here. Ooy! TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 12:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Indeed. When the article for the North American Man/Boy Love Association(NAMBLA) is longer than this one, something's wrong.

Law enforcement?
The article is a bit of a stub so no wonder it's missing, but I'm wondering how what seems to be a private non-profit organisation gets to enforce laws? Is a citizen's arrest kind of thing, or is that particular organisation actually entitled to having uniformed officers (for example) confiscate injured animals and fine people? Is this possibly one of those 'incorporation' kind of things? -- MiG (talk) 10:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I do know that they has a division on law enforcement. I believe their idea around it was to create one that is specific for the animals since the regular police have so many over calls to respond to. My question is, should the law enforcement be added into the article, like specific cases and such, since so many things are missing from it? Milagrosramirez6 (talk) 02:18, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

History
The US ASPCA is an ersatz of the French SPA created in 1845, which was the first state organization dedicated to the protection and well being of animals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.178.118 (talk) 21:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Dog Belonging to CEO of Richmond SPCA Dies After Being Left in Hot Car
link I'm not sure if this should be added to the article or not. Grundle2600 (talk) 01:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

http://www.richmondspca.org/ is a different entity not related to ASPCA in any way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.64.13.116 (talk) 14:34, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

fluff removed
i've removed a lot of fluff and promotional material from the article, as well as non-notable 'news' items listed. the article read in many places like promotional copy for the organization. Anastrophe (talk) 17:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Pet Suicide?
In the "Resources for Pets and Parents" section, a "Pet Suicide" line is referenced. Not only can I find absolutely no reference to this anywhere but on this site, it seems ridiculous on it's face. Is there any verification of this...anywhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.72.87 (talk) 22:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Blammo! InedibleHulk (talk) 00:38, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Operations outside of NYC/ not umbrella organization
The article needs to clarify the scale of the operations of the ASPA outside of New York City. Also missing is prominent mention of the fact that the ASPCA is not an umbrella organization (SPCA of [city/county/etc] is an unrelated organization. 216.222.232.28 (talk) 15:23, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

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Opposition to animal welfare legislation
No mention of the ASPCA's opposition to legislation enabling rescue groups to take custody of animals in kill shelters that are slated to be killed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.112.208 (talk) 19:43, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Article Bias
This article seems biased. It states "ASPCA is a great organization used to prevent animal cruelty", and "The ASPCA's "Advocacy Brigade" allows users to write or e-mail their legislators on important animal legislation bills and referendums." These seems more like opinions than facts. Zuka547 (talk) 19:10, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Advertisements
I know you guys have been getting this a lot, but should we have at least SOMETHING about the sad advertisements that clog up my TV? Because I'm about ready to sue the ASPCA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.220.197 (talk) 02:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

ASPCA: More job opportunities
ASPCA is a great organization. They have great values and want to help animals in need. ASPCA should branch out their offices throughout different states. This is will give an opportunity to those who do not live near or in the East Coast a chance to work for them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.231.161.51 (talk) 23:38, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

ASPCA misnomer
While the ASPCA may do work nationally, as some SPCA's do, they are primarily the SPCA for NYC, and misrepresent themselves as a national organization. They are one of the largest SPCA's in the nation, no doubt partly because they misrepresent themselves as an umbrella organization, and advertise nationally as the "American" SPCA, but they are not. Simply cutting and pasting the verbiage from their website lends credence to this misrepresentation. What is at issue is that the ASPCA gains financially at the expense of local organizations that are more effective in dealing with local issues. If you're going to have a page about the ASPCA on Wikipedia, it's important to clarify who they are vis-a-vis other SPCA's, not to just reprint what they have to say about themselves.

Reference: http://www.thenonprofittimes.com/news-articles/animal-groups-barking-at-aspca/ http://workingtohelpanimalstodaytomorrow.blogspot.com/2011/05/lawsuit-filed-against-aspca-for.html

Charwhee (talk) 21:49, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

The ASPCA and the Electric Chair
According to Electric chair, the initial use of electricity for the purpose of killing living things was when the head of the ASPCA used electricity to experimentally kill "hundreds" of stray dogs, testing various voltages, electrodes, immersed and non-immersed samples, etc, to find out which killed the quickest and most humanely. I thought that was an interesting fact, since experimenting like that seems to the modern eye to constitute cruelty in itself (although it's probably better than whatever they used to euthanize the dogs before that). AnnaGoFast (talk) 19:26, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

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Notability/Quality
Since the article has hordes of unsourced content and many self-referenced contents, not sure how notable this is. Its creation and the multitiude of deleted edits are at least some cause of suspicion too.Lihaas (talk) 08:10, 11 October 2018 (UTC)