Talk:Amina Bouayach

Miscellaneous other positions
Bouayach has been extraordinarily busy, it seems, as her bio page at the CNDH lists a plethora of positions she's held... Not currently mentioned in article: It would be nice to have dates for all of these and possibly incorporate them into the article some day, but it might be too much for me to manage today. --Anon423 (talk) 23:53, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * appointed President of the National Human Rights Council (CNDH) on 6 December 2018
 * Moroccan Ambassador to Sweden and Latvia since February 2016
 * Vice-President then Secretary General of International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH)
 * First female head of a human rights organization in Morocco: the Moroccan Organization for Human Rights (OMDH)
 * member in charge of communication of the office of former Prime Minister, Abderrahmane El Youssoufi
 * a journalist and a consultant in institutional communication
 * member of the Advisory Constitutional Review Commission of 2011
 * member, Board of Directors of the Mohammed VI Foundation for the Reintegration of Prisoners
 * International Humanitarian Law Commission
 * MENA Regional Forum for the ratification of the Optional Protocol to the United Nations Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (OPCAT)
 * member, African Policing Civilian Oversight Forum (APCOF)
 * member, Arab Organization for Human Rights
 * member, Committee for the Reform of the League of Arab States
 * member, Freedom of Association Working Group in the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Network (2009-2011)
 * founding member, Joussour - forum des femmes
 * founding member, Al-Kawakibi Democracy Transition Center in Tunis
 * Deputy Secretary General of the steering Committee for the elaboration of the Action Plan on democracy and human rights (2008-2010)
 * advocated in Addis Ababa to the African Union for the protocol on the abolition of death penalty
 * advocated for ratification of International Convention for the Protection of All Persons from Enforced Disappearance (ICPPED)
 * coordinated NGOs campaigning for the ICPPED

Extraordinary list. Thanks for offering it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.75.21.129 (talk) 07:13, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Profession
To the anonymous editor(s) at 2407:7000:9B74:AF46:1FF4:AB03:FD06:4961 or 121.75.21.129: I understand your point made in these edits that she is no longer involved in activism day-to-day, but in general we list all occupations the person is notable for. In addition, Amina was described as a human rights advocate recently (in March 2021),. To avoid controversy, Wikipedia sticks what the news sources say, per the verifiability policy. – Anon423 (talk) 14:19, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Interesting comments. One thing you've used Morocco World News which is a propaganda vehicle run with some state backing. How do we decide on what is a credible source or not? Is there a specific Wikipedia policy?

I can see why it might be difficult to 'define' Amina Bouayach's profession. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.75.21.129 (talk) 23:41, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * That's a fair point. I'm not personally familiar with the political landscape of Morocco, so I wouldn't know about these biases. If Morocco World News is a state-influenced media outlet it shouldn't be considered independent for controversial state-related subjects. To maintain Wikipedia's Neutral point of view it's sometimes good to mention the source, e.g. "According to Morocco World News...", and if you have a reliable (3rd-party) description of the bias, you could add something like ", which is typically aligned with the state,". Reliable sources are typically secondary sources with both editorial oversight (such as a news organization, book publisher, or academic journal with a reputation for accurate facts) and independence. If you're not sure, you can also check the list of perennial sources and the reliable sources noticeboard for previous discussions of source reliability.
 * I understand you may have an opinion that Amina is no longer really an activist, i.e. that she's now working in the interests of the Moroccan government rather than for human rights. But we need verifiability for all statements – Wikipedia isn't the place for original thoughts, only a mirror for published sources – so I'd find a published source that makes those statements. If it's an opinion piece in a newspaper, you'd probably write something like "According to Joe Writerman at Daily Newspspername,...". – Anon423 (talk) 03:42, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Note on biographies of living persons
To the user at 121.75.21.129, I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living person (Amina Bouayach), but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''I understand this may be important, and this content may deserve to be present, but especially for biographies of living persons, please provide references for all content, especially if controversial. I would also advise being specific; if "Bouayach has also attracted criticism", it is probably best to mention the originator of the criticism. We prefer if possible English-language references, but any source is better than none.''  – Anon423 (talk) 05:55, 28 December 2021 (UTC) (Note adapted from user talk page at 121.75.21.129)