Talk:Amish way of life

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Split
It is split of large article "Amish" into sections as recommended by rules! Duplicate text excluded from Amish page. Alexander Roumega (talk) 11:45, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Merge Amish music
Amish music article is very short stub during five years. I think it can be moved to Amish way of life - Lifestyle and culture. Alexander Roumega (talk) 17:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Are they even ALLOWED to listen to music? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.119.151.233 (talk) 07:22, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Neutral Point of View Violation?
This article doesn't seem to respect the neutral point of view requirement. Statements such as "loneliness is not a problem" or "disobedience is rare" betray a point of view, and would require sources other than the Amish Society's own literature, which can be expected to take a pro-Amish stance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.69.133 (talk) 01:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This whole article sounds like it was written from an Amish pamphlet. There are obvious incongruencies like, "Everyone is treated equally" and in the next paragraph, "and man is the head of woman". Sorry but the statements are incompatible and whatever Wiki editor is responsible for this MESS should've seen it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.119.151.233 (talk) 08:59, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Technology
I was expecting to find a section on technology. I understand that many Amish groups refrain from adopting it, but I've also heard of some groups reluctantly accepting cell phone use. Could this topic be introduced into the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.241.55 (talk) 16:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

i would also like to know about Media and how this relates.

Are they allowed to read newspapers? what about the radio? does news depend on what channel it is consumed on? 84.75.251.224 (talk) 17:56, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Farming? Medical?
Why no section on farming which is their biggest way of life? And how they practice organic farming and do not use medicines or vitamins on their animals. Also how their women give birth in the home and how they reject the use of pharmakeia? 2602:306:C518:62C0:290F:5E4E:7E60:2AD6 (talk) 20:20, 21 July 2012 (UTC) Also how they reject electricity and all technology associated with it. 2602:306:C518:62C0:290F:5E4E:7E60:2AD6 (talk) 20:24, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Off topic chat
the 'clothing' section

it says clothing should not draw attention to the wearer. but that is exactly what amish clothing does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.108.8 (talk) 04:19, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * This talk page is for discussing improvements to the article, not for general discussion of the topic. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 03:14, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Amish
Is Amish a religion or a lifestyle?

Amish life in the modern world merge into Amish way of life
Amish life in the modern world is not a NPOV title, Amish way of life is better, so the former should be merged into the latter.--Darrelljon (talk) 16:16, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed that Amish life in the modern world isn't written or titled with NPOV. However the text of Amish way of life isn't much better. I think actually both could be merged into Amish, which already has a Way of life section that could be expanded upon. Mozby (talk) 20:27, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support the original proposal to merge Amish life in the modern world into Amish way of life due to overlap. The alternative proposal would make Amish too large. There is a Way of life section there, but this is corrected set in Summary style; note the main template there. Klbrain (talk) 19:58, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per . If nothing else, the proposed merge should make one half-decent way-of-life article, which will be a lot clearer to use as a base for re-evaluating any further changes. &mdash; Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 14:02, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 14:41, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Issues with page
Did someone give the Amish a computer to write this? Clearly not WP:NPOV Flaming Hot Mess of Confusion (talk) 20:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * There are several more controversial parts of the Amish way of life and these are not mentioned. In fact, it seems to go out of its way to emphasize how good their way of life is.
 * The relations with non-Amish section is very one-sided, showing only how others treat them and not how they treat others
 * I am not very knowledgeable on outsider's treatment of the Amish so I won't weigh on in that but better sources are needed to prove it. For example, it is stated that Kidnapping by non-Amish is also a common crime against Amish youth. this could very well be the case but the references are just two articles (one only 3 sentences) reporting on Amish girls being kidnapped without discussing of prevalence. You can make any group seem discriminated against if the only proof needed is that it's happened a few times.


 * Agreed that there is no coverage about how Amish view, or treat, non-Amish. (Flaming, I think you missed the word "not" in "and how they treat others").   ▶ I am Grorp ◀  22:29, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for noticing that Flaming Hot Mess of Confusion (talk) 23:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. According to this link, the article Amish life in the modern world was a split from the Amish article in 2010. Then was merged into this article in 2021.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀  23:21, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Added a "More Citations" needed tag
Primarily refers to the "Lifestyle and culture" section, but there are enough uncited statements scattered throughout the article that I feel justified adding the page-wide template, especially considering prior concerns about Neutral Point of View. That being said, I do think the information was sourced from the references already listed; the article just needs more in-text citations. Sparechair (talk) 13:21, 26 June 2024 (UTC)