Talk:Amleth

Suggestion to merge with Ur-Hamlet
I don't think that the suggestion to merge with the Ur-Hamlet page is a good idea. They are two distinct phenomena and shouldn't be confused with one another.

DionysosProteus 23:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with Dp - keep as two separate articles. Don't merge. -- Beardo 15:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

References?
I fail to see any. Where is the info in this article coming from? It said at the bottom it uses info from an Britannica article thats now in the public domain or something. But what article?!? I can't use this page for any assignment or anything if there are no resources. And if it is there but i missed it, it should be made more obvious so a common person like me can be more efficient in using Wikipedia... --Xali (talk) 02:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

And what is the Prose section for? I don't see how it is relevent at all. --Xali (talk) 05:54, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Although there are no other references whatsoever, the personal communication from Hugh Kenner to me was deleted as "unverifiable." It turns out, although I didn't know it at the time, that Hugh wrote much the same thing in A Colder Eye, and so I've undone the deletion and put in the book reference. (His note to me was more colorful, referring to "Bill Shxpr" but never mind. It was sent Sun Jul 9 1989, 02:10:19 EDT, and yes, I still have the electronic copy.) --Bbrownspsu (talk) 17:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC) What about Santillana and Von Dechend's essay "Hamlet's Mill" as a reference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.105.195 (talk) 18:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Hamletto or Prosciuttino (comic parody)
This one should be added to the "Adaptations" section of the Hamlet information box. The late Anna Russell reduced the play to a 30-minute opera summary in the style of Giuseppe Verdi.

She begins, "As you know, Verdi has done many adaptations of the Shakespeare plays. He has not, as a matter of fact, done one of Hamlet - but I'm not for a moment going to let that stand in my way." As she begins, accompanying herself on the piano, she notes the libretto is in Italian but that she will translate as necessary to understand the plot.

Guard: O Hamletto! We have seen a ghost! Hamletto: No! Ridiculo! Guard: E vero! Un ghost! (Mezzanotte) Hamletto: O Dio! O Terror! O Spook! Parlatemi! Il Ghost: Io sono su padre's ghost! Vindicate il mio foul and most unnatural murder! Your uncle did pour poison in mine ear! Hamletto! Adio! Remember me!

71.198.146.98 (talk) 07:32, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


 * It can only be added to the box if it has an article of its own, and frankly it does not seem notable enough for that. --Saddhiyama (talk) 08:55, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

'Belleforest's tragedies' section
This section is obviously plagiarized.Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 18:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Runic inscription
Floating around on the internet, I found this,
 * "Michael Skovmand, Dept. of English at U. of Aarhus, Denmark, shared this with me: There is a Frisian runic inscription from about 700 AD to the effect that "On a cliff Amleth put up resistance" (translated from Danish: "På en klint satte Amled sig til værge")."

Skovmand published a paper in 1992, where he apparently makes this case.

Now if you know about Frisian runes you will realize that an alleged inscription reading "on a cliff Amleth put up resistance" would be a rather sensational find. It is my suspicion, merely based on the occurrence of the string æmluþ, that this is in fact Skovmand's own reading of the notorious Westeremden yew-stick, which is by far the longest of the Frisian inscriptions.

Needless to say, the inscription ophæmujiBAdaæmluþ:wimœBæhþuSAiwioKuPdunale has about as many interpretations as there have been scholars writing about it. So if Skovmand's hypothesis has been published, we can of course make mention of it, but please, not in the tone of "Amleth is mentioned in a Frisian runic inscription dated c. 700". --dab (𒁳) 16:20, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I googled, and found that this is indeed the idea, but also that the proposal goes back to 1937. Then I fixed the article. --dab (𒁳) 16:43, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 21 May 2015

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 18:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Hamlet (legend) → Amleth – Per WP:NATURAL and WP:CONCISE. Though "Hamlet' is more familiar to modern readers than "Amleth", the latter is used more often in the article, including the opening sentence. Because essentially, we're talking about a legendary figure named Amleth who is known in later stories as Hamlet. As long as we have the old title as a redirect, I think this move makes sense. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 05:50, 30 May 2015 (UTC) --BDD (talk) 14:12, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * BDD is there anything to show that Amleth meets UCRN requirements? I recognise Hamlet.  GregKaye 18:57, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You recognize Hamlet as a play though, right? I know I do. You may be right, though. --BDD (talk) 04:02, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Question: Is "Amleth" the correct spelling anyway? In what language? The RM is proposing to move from (recognizable and undeniably English) "Hamlet" to "Amleth" specifically (rather than Amlethus or Amblothi, or some of other variants given). I am just wondering if "Amleth" is right, in what language is it, and is it sufficiently the dominant spelling, or is it just one variant among many?  I don't oppose the move, but would sincerely like to know.  Since the proposed move is effectively asking to re-spell a name,  I think it is important to get the new name right.Walrasiad (talk) 16:06, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks like an anglicization of the latinized Old Norse name. --BDD (talk) 16:52, 1 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Support. BDD is correct. "Amlethus" is the one Saxo Grammaticus wrote about. When dealing with the sources of Hamlet, I think most people prefer "Amleth" for the original figure of legend. Srnec (talk) 00:48, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Amlethus also redirects here, so it might also work. --BDD (talk) 13:18, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


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Etymology: yew-wood stick/bough
Shakespeare's sense of irony with this meaning, intended or not, would be poignant: yew was the favored wood to work for forming long-bows (arrowshaft being made from Rushes), a "beau"/bow known for bringing death - very much cut from such stuff Hamlet would be. Nagelfar (talk) 03:21, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Chronicon Lethrense
The passages about Amleth are not to be found in the Gertz edition of the Chronicon Lethrense, only in much later manuscripts of the Gesta Danorum på Danskæ, so some information about the authenticity and date of these later fragments might be desirable. See also the information provided by the University of Bergen, which refers to a Swedish translation, which does not mention Amleth at all. The confustion might originate from bold and unsubstantiated statements on the Shakespeare-pages of the University of Victoria.Otto S. Knottnerus (talk) 16:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * After some further inquiry, I skipped the reference to the Chronicon Lethrense and renamed the section. There is no indication that the original Lejre chronicon contained any reference to Amlethus.Otto S. Knottnerus (talk) 00:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)