Talk:Amnesia/Archive 1

Silent flute man
I took out the statement about the silent flute man; that article was deleted here as not verifiable. It is still not verifiable so far as I can see, and unverifiable references to his "believed" condition shouldn't be used in other articles, either. Kafziel 23:11, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Amnestic
The word amnestic redirects here in several articles but the word isn't used anywhere in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.171.218 (talk) 17:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Wordings
I don't know whether it's right to label source amnesia a "memory disorder", isn't it a quite common phenomenon, even among the unimpaired?

whoops, didn't notice retrograde amnesia was already mentioned. My mistake. Just to be clear, although H.M.'s main problem was anterograde amnesia (he still presumed he was 18-something, and presenting him with a mirror would give him great distress, seeing his withered face), he also had light retrograde amnesia I believe (up until two weeks before the surgery in which his hippocampal area was removed). Super brockie 00:02, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Just noticed the page seems to be rife with "dumbasses" and one or more people talking.

Back to normal now --Kevin Hanse  (talk) 04:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I just edited some vandalism out also. The guy might be simply changing computers to vandalize... Does anyone else think so? Kennard2 00:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Curious about personalities
Something i was wondering about, that perhaps someone could address for this article...what are the common effects on the personality of someone who experiences amnesia. Is their personality fairly consistent? Or does it sometimes change radically? It would be interesting to see what effect memory has on personality...or is it mostly driven by something else.Juxtapozbliss 23:47, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Incomplete Sentence
The line about Transient Global Amnesia is incomplete. It reads "Transient Global Amnesia is a well described medical and clinical phenomenon. This form of". Could someone who actually knows about this stuff fix it please? Sailorknightwing 03:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Dissociative amnesia
Just a passerby here. If this Amnesia page is a pseudo disambiguation page, why does Dissociative amnesia link to this same article? At the very least, if there's no separate page for it, it doesn't make much sense to link back to "amnesia." There's only about 2 sentences about it here. [unknown user]

separately, this page suggests that dissociative amnesia is different from retrograde. i think they're effectively the same, no? 71.234.109.192 03:05, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

fr:Amnésie sélective de guerre
Hello, have you an article such as "War's Amnesia: Amnesia about wars and Wars' crims". French have one article, explaning that people, government, soldiers may voluntary or unvolontary have a global amnesia about things happen in war time. Have you, on the english wikipedia, something about that ? and then may you add the french interwiki link. Thanks 61.228.29.8 (talk) 10:48, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

As legal defence
What about an Amnesia as a legal defence section? It has been used in many famous cases, such as Guenther Podola. What do people think? Malick78 (talk) 18:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

one word change - let the facts speak for themselves
I have changed "purported" to "reported."

definitions from answers.com purported - commonly put forth or accepted as true on inconclusive grounds reported - Made known or told about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPOV#Let_the_facts_speak_for_themselves "We just list the facts of the Holocaust dispassionately" The use of "reported" in this case is more neutral than "purported." It is preferable to let the facts speak for themselves and use the more neutral term "reported." ResearchEditor (talk) 21:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Self Induced
is there any way to self induce amnesia without any means of hypnosis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.196.141 (talk) 20:03, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Redirected from STML?
Hello, I have noticed that this page appears as redirected from STML. I don't know what STML means in the connection with the amnesia topic, but STML often stands for "The Spoken Text Markup Language", which is actually what I was looking for. Anyway, the page SABLE links to STML in the latter meaning but ends up here.147.228.47.68 (talk) 09:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

amnesia
Is it possible to hit your head on the side of a bathtub (on the forehead) and lose your memory? Such as who you are, where you work, who your relationship is with? If so, for how long and how common is it? The knot on the head in this situation, was caused by passing out, while sitting on the toilet, and caused a small knot on the right side of the forehead. No blood, just a small knot. I appreciate any info I can obtain, or stories that have happened, thank you.

Regarding the paragraph about not remembering a past party: This can not be the reason, since this memory is not in the hippocampus but in the neocortex. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.88.205.49 (talk) 09:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Amnesia in fiction
Dunno why it's impossible to edit this page, but an example that supports many of the claims in the "Amnesia in fiction" section is the episode "Ed Gets Amnesia" of the show "Mister Ed" ... see http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0649780/

24.176.215.51 (talk) 11:06, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Two Fictional cases of Amnesia:
 * Penguin (comics) - in different episodes knows who Bruce Wayne and Alfred the Butler are-yet in other episodes can't seem to recognize either of them!
 * Vlad Plasmius -Danny Phantom's first supervillain enemy-who accidently discovers Danny's secret identity in the first episode they meet-although in a later episode Vlad doesn't seem to remember Danny's Dual identity

I would suggest that someone consider revising this section or removing it completely. It lacks any citation and is very poorly written with several typographical errors. 75.48.197.215 (talk) 20:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Classification by DSM-4
The above classificatin is missing in this article even though English Wikipedia is based in USA and not in Europe and the DSM is the world wide most accepted psychiatric classification manual.--Gilisa (talk) 15:09, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

A Certain Type of Amnesia?
Is there a term for amnesia where a person has forgotten every that has occurred after a certain date in the past? (For example, let's say it's May 2011, but someone suddenly is under the believe that it's a February 04, 2008 and can't remember anything that's happened to them after February 04, 2008.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.80.140 (talk) 02:56, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Link for blackout phenomenon
I have added a link to the Effects of alcohol on memory page for the "blackout phenomenon" type of amnesia. It describes (at the molecular level) how alcohol induces memory loss. Yevangelina (talk) 00:17, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Types Lists
The first bullet list appears to be copy-pasted at the bottom of the second list. Repressed memory "...Formerly known as "Psychogenic Amnesia"." seems to conflict with the later element called Situation-Specific Amnesia, which links to the Psychogenic Amnesia article. Also, Repressed memory and Dissociative Fugue are both "formerly known as" stated in different ways. I don't know if that is an oversight or a way to introduce variety. (this is a dynamic IP address) 67.183.31.46 (talk) 07:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Initial comment
Don't know much about editing wikipedia nor do I have time to write up something but there has been a HUGE ommision in regards to the base rate for nontramatic amnesia. Bellow are some of my notes on the subject ... you can work through them, find sources ect if you have the time

Baselines: The standard rate of something in the population … normally when we are talking about baseline they had to go find tons of people

Read & Lindsay (2000): looked for the base rates of what we are willing to call amnesia for nontramatic events, There where 2 conditions, one was reminicance the other was the enhanced condition, the normal was just told to think about it, ask the other group to ask your family look at pictures go back to your school This group was asked the same partial and complete amnesia Partial amnesia question: “Was there ever a period of time when you remembered less about the event then you do now?” Complete amnesia question: “Was there ever a period in which you had no memory of these events procedure: recall events; one event picked for extended retrieval first interview: questions about their current memory of events, plus; Was there ever a period of time when you remembered less of the event than you do now? Was there ever a period in which you had no memory of this event? 2 retrieval conditions for next 4 weeks: reminiscence vs.enhanced Reminiscence: spend as much time as possible thinking of event and recalling as many details as possible Enhanced: reminiscence instructions + ask your family look at pictures go back to your school - final interview: same questions from 1st interview

Results: partial or complete amnesia for 21% of people felt they had amnesia under one of the two questions Remincant: 35% (around) Enhance Condition: 80% (around)

Conclusion: It was though that the baseline for a nontramatic life would be 0 but this was far from the case. It proved that recalling amnesia was not evidence for a traumatic experience. The more you where asked to work on recalling past events the more likely you where to report having amnesia. The questions asked where the exact same questions a psychologist would ask some one to see if they had amnesia —Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)
 * Don't know when this was added; with a pubmed, could be added I suppose. WLU (talk) 21:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I wonder if I have a different form of amnesia not recognized. When I take nexium every day I often have missing events from my long term memories. But then after trying to recall those memories a few days later they come to me and get clearer and clearer. Its not like trying to recall a name because you instantly say "yes" if someone tells it to you. Its more like a Polaroid film developing over a days time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.249.246.183 (talk) 02:46, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Merger proposal
As I understand it, 'amnesia' and 'memory loss' are sufficiently close in meaning that they do not merit separate articles. The article on Memory loss is very patchy and contains dubious information. I suggest redirecting Memory loss to this page (Amnesia) and incorporating any useful info from the former into the latter. I don't have time to do this myself just now but would be happy to help, or to do so when I have time. Neurotip (talk) 13:48, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * These pages were merged by User:Unreal7.
 * Have these terms been verified as synonymous by any reliable published sources? Jarble (talk) 23:44, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Amnesia: How to cure it and films
How is amnesia cured for real? Can it really be fixed like in films? By smashing the amnesia patient in the head with a baseball bat? In every movie that ive seen this is how its fixed. And im not just talking about Hollywood films but films from all over the world. Hopeful for a reply! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.150.23.66 (talk) 19:44, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * it depends on each individual person, their age, their health etc. For some people it probably may be curable to some extent. For example, if someone is purported to have long term memory loss and you leave them stranded in a foreign country, say France, after a year or so they might become fluent or understand French language and culture. In this scenario they do not actually have amnesia (although it will probably not work for everyone though). --BrianJ34 (talk) 08:17, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Who are lucky, can heal up totally. :) 94.21.190.168 (talk) 17:13, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Post-traumatic amnesia
This bullet under Types is listed as "Post-traumatic amnesia" but immediately uses the term "traumatic amnesia" instead. Is that the same thing? This is confusing. Either use the same term in both places or clearly explain they are alternate names for the same thing. If neither of these are correct please add some sort of explanation of what this is about. Gnuarm (talk) 02:21, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

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In fiction
There should have a section on amnesia in fiction. The only reason most people know the word is that fictional characters develop (or fake, or joke about, etc.) amnesia so often. Also, the specific form of amnesia that occurs in fiction is almost invariably either global retrograde amnesia, or a dissociative fugue, both of which are incredibly rare in real life—possibly to the point that they wouldn't be notable enough to mention in an encyclopedia based only on actual occurrences, but they are immediately recognizable to almost everyone because of their prevalence in fiction.

The article once had an "in popular culture" section, which was removed in 2010 as part of a larger Wikipedia sweep of such sections. I think in this case, it was a mistake. (Also, it was removed by an anon IP, with no edit comment, and no discussion here, so we can't even ask why it was done.) While many such sections were just indiscriminate lists of fancruft, this one was actually an encyclopedic discussion of the topic.

Of course it might need updating to 2018 standards, a bit of expansion (it probably relies too much on Jonathan Lethem's essay, and barely touches on video games—and without a source), etc. But I think it's still solid enough that restoring it and editing from there is a good step. --157.131.170.189 (talk) 07:41, 30 November 2018 (UTC)