Talk:Among Us/Archives/2020/October

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2020
It says that you can call an emergency meeting at any time when you can cant, it can not be during a sabotage or as a ghost SuperUnhappySnail (talk) 04:11, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 11:05, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The article states that "Players may also call an "emergency meeting" by pressing a button in the map at any time." This is technically not true, as they cannot be called during specific sabotage acts or if the one doing the calling is a ghost.--Megaman en m (talk) 11:27, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Done, thank you for pointing that out. Harmonia per misericordia. OmegaFallon (talk) 14:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

More specific description
It is said here that some skins/cosmetic options are downloadable content, this is somewhat inaccurate due to the fact that in the PC version of Among Us most if not all skins and hats are free. (Because the PC version of the game itself is paid) JRBCodes (talk) 05:53, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Heading
Is there any particular reason why the title of the article isn't formatted normally? (I think it is in italics). Giraffer munch 13:23, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Article titles for major works (TV shows, video games, novels, etc.) are always italicized. The "Infobox video game" template does it automatically. Harmonia per misericordia. OmegaFallon (talk) 22:54, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

"Crewsona"?
What's the point of having that character sheet for a fanmade "crewsona" on the page? Not hating on the art or anything, but really just seems like that person is advertising their fanart and doesn't seem to belong in a wikipedia article, even one that covers fanmade content being a thing. Do we really need an example of people making OCs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C9:100:3B6:51BC:8E66:1454:670E (talk) 02:00, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


 * When I read the article seeing that there struck me as odd. Best someone (or me) gets rid of it. But at best we should seek approval. -GoatLordServant (Talk) 12:03, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * IMO the image serves an encyclopedic purpose, giving an example of the game's fandom. It's fairly common to do, I've seen articles with pictures of cosplayers in their "popularity" section. The character sheet is CC so there's also no fair use concerns. Harmonia per misericordia. OmegaFallon (talk) 12:57, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

 "crewsona" picture edit request 

Remove the example of a "crewsona", it's blatantly someone just inserting their own character to be on the among us page as if it's special

or replace it with a blank template/"crewsona" made for the purpose of a wiki entry

oh yeah here's a replacement if you for some reason REALLY need an example, 5 minutes in MS paint https://imgur.com/gallery/2HxSqI0 2605:6000:1708:92E7:C455:907A:67C0:A2A3 (talk) 19:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, I'm the person who uploaded the photo. I did not make it, and actively went out and asked an artist if they would be willing to CC license their work. The one uploaded is from a person who agreed to that. While the idea of their art getting more exposure from it was brought up in the conversation, no money exchanged hands and it was all my decision, so I really find it hard to see this as advertising. The picture currently in the article is high quality, CC, and serves an encyclopedic purpose. Harmonia per misericordia. OmegaFallon (talk) 23:45, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Putting fanart on a Wikipedia page seems inappropriate, even if you have permission to do so. There is also no proof of permission on the page, which is concerning, but even if you added proof that you had the license to use the image, I would still recommend removing it. An example of a crewsona is not needed. 2601:601:957F:C1B0:659F:DAA4:7357:653A (talk) 22:25, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Fanart is not inappropriate when discussing a game's fandom. Images of cosplayers have been used for similar purposes, and I would've used one if one existed, but, y'know, *gestures vaguely at pandemic* 2) Check the comments of the tweet. The user stated the image is licensed under CC-BY SA 4.0. Harmonia per misericordia. OmegaFallon (talk) 01:15, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of InnerSloth for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article InnerSloth is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Semi-protected edit request on 8 October 2020
In the second sentence of the third paragraph of the Gameplay section, there is a piece that says "players discuss who they believe an Impostor based on the evidence". In between the words "Impostor" and "based", there should be the word "is". A comma may also be needed, I'm not sure. Vive la Franks (talk) 18:30, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:07, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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The New York Times
Added The New York Times to Further reading section. Please feel free to make use of this source as a reference to cite in the article itself as well. Thank you, Right cite (talk) 21:10, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

CNBC
It appears more mainstream news media sources are now covering this phenomenon regarding topics Among Us and InnerSloth. Right cite (talk) 21:23, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Innersloth or InnerSloth?
I've seen valid sources with the S both capitalized and uncapitalized. For consistency, we should pick one. Let's discuss which. Harmonia per misericordia. OmegaFallon (talk) 01:39, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure I've seen InnerSloth in more sources, more often, with the S capitalized version. Right cite (talk) 03:18, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Innersloth is the stylizing used by the company at innersloth.com and used by them formally. Rafplayz001 (talk &#124; contribs) 14:37, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Official website uses "InnerSloth" at http://www.innersloth.com/About.php Right cite (talk) 14:59, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * They must have changed it then, it was Innersloth before. Then I believe "InnerSloth" should be used instead. Rafplayz001 (talk &#124; contribs) 15:05, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay no problem, thank you! Right cite (talk) 15:26, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

"Among Us" videos topped 4 billion views in September
4 billion views. Pretty fascinating Internet phenomenon. Right cite (talk) 03:22, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Top download worldwide for September 2020
Right cite (talk) 13:30, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: InnerSloth listed as publisher of worldwide top downloads for September 2020 -- above both Alibaba and Amazon, as reported by Digital Information World and SensorTower.

Might be better to wait to include until after this happens...
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will be playing Among Us with top Twitch streamers to promote voting in the upcoming election. --M asem (t) 21:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Too late. SWinxy (talk) 22:03, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Newgrounds podcast development details
The three devs had a podcast in Newgrounds. I'm not going to watch the whole thing again but here are some key points. Straight from the source.


 * Forte bass never did sound design before and mixed noises from multiple sound packs to create the SFX.
 * Forte created the menu music when he was depressed, which shows.
 * When creating maps like Skeld Puffballs had a habit of googling things like "Electrical room", picking out key details, and implementing that into the room
 * Puff took a month off working on the henry stickmin collection to design the Skeld map
 * Originally the game had no sound because it was originally intended to be played locally on mobile, and sound would give things away. Sound was implenentee for the PC and online releases.
 * They had a group of 8 friends to playtest the game periodically, at this stage the map art wasn't made yet.
 * There are details in the podcast about how they got into newgrounds, game development, and other stuff.

Keep an eye out for when details from the podcast get media attention in order to cite them. 2604:2000:1107:8A76:EDB1:495F:D4EB:8C6F (talk) 23:48, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe that for details about a company, primary sources from them are allowed, so it should be fine to cite this. Harmonia per misericordia. OmegaFallon (talk) 01:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Among us VS Fall guys
(Quick Article)

During mid-August a game called fall guys hit the popularity charts.The games basic idea is tiny jelly beans trying to outlast other players in competitions such as races to the end or surviving until the round ends. Mediatonic (fall guys owner)'s game hit the top 10 charts by end-August.

Made in 2018, Now a well know gamed called among us slips into a popular state in September of 2020. Crewmates in the game are forced to find an alien impostor that is hidden among the crew mates. Only using their eyes, Admin, and security cameras to try to find the impostor among them. When a body is reported OR somebody presses the big red button in the middle, Players can vote out anybody who is sus (suspicious) to try and eject the impostor out.

Fall guys was slowly falling as soon as Inner-sloths Game among us started to pull people from all type of games. Among us brings fall guys down and takes top 3 in 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperLearner1234 (talk • contribs) 19:32, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Clarify voting, quorum - really majority vs plurality?
The article says e.g. If a plurality vote is reached, the chosen person is ejected from the map and dies. What is the quorum? How long does the voting period last? Is it really trying to just say that a majority of voters (players?) need to agree on an outcome? That's quite different from a plurality, which could be a single vote if there was only one successful voter and a quorum of 1 was allowed. ★NealMcB★ (talk) 12:18, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Per the definition of plurality voting, it states that every voter can only vote once, and the one who polls the most is voted in. Per the context of Among Us, this means the one with the most votes is voted out/ejected. It would also have a quorum, it would be a plenum, as everyone must attend it. The time is interchangeable per lobbies, but I suggest adding the default voting time to the article. Rafplayz001 (talk &#124; contribs) 15:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * OK. Sounds like it is plurality, but I also note that there is a "none of the above" option ("Skip"). Updated the article. ★NealMcB★ (talk) 02:44, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Nealmcb I recommend adding that information to the gameplay section instead of the lead as the lead is supposed to briefly summarize the key points from the article while the body or individual sections can go into a bit more detail. Lazman321 (talk) 14:26, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Spam attacked on Public after AOC's stream
When I searched on via Google Search. Among Us' public server got suffered by spammed attack. This spam attack came from 'Eris Loris'. This individual or 'entity' might be a Pro-Trump supporter. InnerSloth adviced the players is to play Private server(s) aka Server with code required.

How did this occured? 3 days after AOC's twitch stream

sources?

1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambrown/2020/10/23/among-us-suffers-attack-by-apparent-pro-trump-hacker-three-days-after-aocs-hit-twitch-rally/#3433b06d65a0

2. https://www.engadget.com/among-us-eris-loris-hack-223724773.html

3, https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/23/21530984/among-us-spam-hack-attack-eris-loris-innersloth-maintenance

please give me a note if these 3 sources are considered Unreliabe.

Flankbed (talk) 08:13, 24 October 2020 (UTC)


 * It's not just a question of having reliable sources, it's also a question of whether it's WP:NOTABLE. Remembers that Wikipedia is not news, we don't report on everything that happens. I'd give these criteria as a rough guide for deciding if this event is notable:


 * 1. it remains relevant months later


 * 2. it results in sweeping, long-lasting changes to the game


 * 3. it is an unprecedented event in gaming that gets reported on by multiple sources.--Megaman en m (talk) 08:51, 24 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I believe that this does have significant coverage to warrant being added to the article. A lot of sources, like Eurogamer, Rock Paper Shotgun, Kotaku, The Verge, Forbes, IGN, EnGadget, and Geekwire talks about the hack. Even the Forbes article about the hack is written by a member of the Forbes staff, making the article reliable. The Eurogamer article is especially noteworthy since it found out who created the hack. Eris Loris, a hacker and cheater, created the bot as a publicity stunt with a bunch of his discord members supporting the bot attack. The Trump2020 phrases at the end of messages were just because he was a Trump supporter. He believes that he has a workaround for if the emergency update is successful, though there may be a chance that bot may be no longer usable after the emergency update. Lazman321 (talk) 15:07, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The attack is definitely tied to its popularity, but it would be good to see how its resolved before adding it. --M asem (t) 17:12, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I disagree that the attacks should me mentioned in this article. WP:NOTNEWS as well as the fact that this is being fixed rather quickly. Probably should redact the links and name to prevent this guy from getting attention, even if this is kept. SWinxy (talk) 00:34, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm still of the opinion that it shouldn't be mentioned due to WP:NOTNEWS. This is probably going to be forgotten about within the month without leaving a permanent mark on the game.--Megaman en m (talk) 08:30, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I understand now. I will never put news link again. Also, I understand the what Wikipedia is not. I must be careful what I did especially Analysis. I will never forget read the rules. Flankbed (talk) 17:11, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm relatively new to Wikipedia but I think it's important to keep it as it has sort of become an important part of the game's history. Now, the game is relatively new (i say that in relation to its popularity despite being made in 2018) so it wouldn't surprise me if more major events like this happen in the future. When they do I think it would be important for those to possibly replace this Eris Loris hack thing. But like I said, I'm new to Wikipedia so what I'm saying could go completely against some of Wikipedia's policies. Blaze Wolf &#38;#124 Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 14:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * There is no "hierarchy" of notability, it's either notable or it's not. It often takes a while, sometimes years, to see if an event is notable for Wikipedia's purposes. Also, it's not the case that a "more" notable event will cause a "less" notable event to be removed from Wikipedia (space is not a concern, if the article becomes too full of notable facts you can just make a sub-article!).--Megaman en m (talk) 14:29, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. It's just that sometimes certain events are overshadowed by others which makes the previous event seemingly redundant. That's sort of what I was thinking. But it makes sense to keep all notable events. Blaze Wolf &#38;#124 Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 14:35, 30 October 2020 (UTC)