Talk:Amor fati

merging this article into Fatalism
Personally, I think merging this article into Fatalism would be a mistake. This is a distinctly separate idea, and someone searching for this specific idea with the intent to learn more about it might not think to investigate Fatalism.

Better quote than the existing one? "My formula for greatness in a human being is amor fati: that one wants nothing to be different, not forward, not backward, not in all eternity. Not merely bear what is necessary, still less conceal it—all idealism is mendaciousness in the face of what is necessary—but love it." -—Why I Am So Clever, 10, Ecce Homo, Nietzsche


 * I strongly disagree with this merge. In fact, considering it's been waiting for so long, I'm going to remove it - and get to work on improving the article.--Sycron 04:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Especially considering the strong emphasis on Nietzsche, it is silly to define amor fati as anything having anything to do with a belief in destiny or in an ultimate purpose. . . to love one's fate, even if it is full of purposeless suffering, because this is the honorable thing to do (make the world beautiful, not ugly), would seem to be the keystone to the philosophy. 69.134.171.127 (talk) 21:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I find it humorous that some contributor apparently thinks the Dune books are far removed from German philosophy. Nietzsche's thoughts and ideals are greatly represented in those books in my opinion. Anyone agrees? Asherett (talk) 18:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

In Ecce Homo
My formula for greatness in a human being is amor fati: that one wants nothing to be different, not forward, not backward, not in all eternity. Not merely bear what is necessary, still less conceal it—all idealism is mendaciousness in the face of what is necessary—but love it. —Why I Am So Clever, 10 From here. If it's an accurate quotation, it could be used in the article, with some explanation. RobertM525 (talk) 01:09, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

This is an accurate quote; I updated the page to reflect this (used to cite Genealogy) --Eriksilkensen (talk) 23:48, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Criticism of the use of the word Resentment
From the little that I can garner, though Nietzsche's teachings and philosophy would seem to reflect very much in what currently exists in reality, he refers to the word RESENTIMENT rather than RESENTMENT. This is an issue which may appear whimsical and laughable - but I am of the opinion that there is a very real and distinct difference between Nietzsche's use of the two words.

Wikipedian.wikipedian (talk) 16:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Original research
I removed the following as OR:
 * It is almost identical to the Jewish concept of Gam Zeh Letovah (this too is for the best - גם זה לטובה)

Please provide a source or citation. - CompliantDrone (talk) 06:10, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Simone Weil
Simone Weil and her alleged Gnostic experiences have literally nothing to do with this subject. If you wish to include her in a section linking the idea to stoicism, that idea must be developed first, as Simone's letter to Father Perrin would be only tangentially related, even at that point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.171.181.126 (talk) 06:24, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Voltaire's Candide
Prior to Nietzsche's "love of fate", it may be relevant to add Voltaire's quite extensive criticism of the concept of "the best of all possible worlds" in "Candide, ou l'Optimisme" of 1759. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.38.81.100 (talk) 14:30, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Nothing RAMESH PERUMAL G (talk) 05:15, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

This is a poor definition of Amor Fati.
There are those things that happen in life over which you have control, and those over which you have none. Amor fati refers mori to the acceptance of fate, both good and bad. It is the basis for the serenity prayer so popular: Lord grant me the serenity to accept those things I cannot change, Change those things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. 76.18.252.63 (talk) 17:38, 9 August 2023 (UTC)