Talk:Amsterdam Metro

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System length
Why don't you give the overall length of the system? How in heck can you judge a system without that?

Route diagrams
Maybe it would be nice to add some route diagrams to the Network section, but because they are structured vertically they take up a lot of space. I have made an example for line 50. I would like to get some feedback. – Ilse@ 10:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

163.117.139.54 (talk) 11:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC) The "zuid as visie" link points to a parked domain.

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Metro Morphose
Many times the city government tried to update the OOSTLIJN to modern standard, but all the times they failed and blamed the construction companies the set on the project, but infect the problems are the government could not make good contacts and failed to manage the construction companies.

The escalators are renewed for fire safety, and little updates are made to 10 station on the Oostlijn, but the project failed and the costs are rising. This line is still not save, but there are no alternatives so they stay in service.

New project about updating the Oostlijn faild too, ROL etc, they only made new names for old projects.

A wrong statement concerning the construction cost
The sentence under the paragraph Planned "The project initially had a budget of €1.46 billion, but after several setbacks the total cost estimation has been adjusted to €3.1 billion (price level 2009), which will make it the most expensive metro line ever to be built worldwide." is clearly wrong.

In Hong Kong, the West Rail (Phase 1) was completed in end of 2003 at a total cost of HKD46.4 billion (see note 1), translating into EUR4.36 billion at 2004 exchange rate. The price is even higher if other completed phases are taken into account. I also believe that there are many other metro lines in other part of the world that are even costly. As a matter of fact EUR3.1b is only a small amount.

The connection between CS and Amsterdam Zuid is already established during the 80 and 90 of the 20 century, but they made a reroute trough the old city center adding 3 more metro station in the old city center.

note 1: HK Annual Transport Digest 2003 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremy1897 (talk • contribs) 03:13, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Green Line
A quick question after reading through this page, but why isn't the history of the Green/Circle/Ring Line (50) described in the "Network" section? It seems that the history of 51, 53, and 54 are described in some detail, but there is no mention of when the green line was ran to/from Isolatorweg. It seems to me that the history of 50 would be described in the "Amstelveenlijn" subsection or given its own section. And, kind of tangentially related, but in this section or the other, can it be made very clear which lines share tracks and between which stations in shares those tracks? There is kind of mention, throughout, but it'd be nice to see this kind of information consolidated to be made more clear and concise. --Criticalthinker (talk) 09:40, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * BTW, on 51, after you get past Zuid (NS), does one have to transfer to new vehicles, or can you take the line from end to end? The article seems to describe that southwest-bound, the service operates as a tram and switches from third-rail to pantograph.  It seems to imply a vehicle change, and the Rolling Stock subsection shows two different types of vehicle serving the line. But can you have a seemless transition between the two power systems? --Criticalthinker (talk) 09:58, 23 March 2014 (UTC)--TUX2K (talk) No the vehicles have both a pantograph and third rail shoe. They retract the third rail shoe and put up the pantograph. This while stopping at the stop Amsterdam Zuid-WTC. Only the S type cars have both the systems.

Anyone want to make mention in the article exactly the segements that each lines shares? --Criticalthinker (talk) 15:29, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * 51, 53, and 54 share a line between Amsteram Central and Sparklerweg, correct? Seems like an interesting fact worth including on the page. --Criticalthinker (talk) 00:56, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Total network length figure
I am about to revise (really: "roll back" to my earlier figures) the total network length figures quoted at this article because I think the following reference has been misinterpreted.

The above reference quotes the total network length of the Amsterdam Metro as "52 km", but because the focus of that document is the under construction Noord-Zuidlijn (North-South Line), I believe that the reference figure quoted here is a projected value for the Amsterdam Metro in 2020 after the Noord-Zuidlijn (North-South Line) has opened.

My reasons for thinking this:
 * 1) The extent of the current metro(-only) network is essentially entirely encompassed by Route 50 (20.1 km) and Route 53 (11.3 km) which yields a total network length of the metro-only portions of 31.4 km (which perhaps should be rounded to 32 km?).
 * 2) Adding the 9.5 km "fast tram" section of Line 51 obtains a total network length figure of 41 km.
 * 3) The total network length quoted at the Dutch-language nl:Amsterdamse metro Wikipedia article is 42.5 km (unreferenced), which is somewhat close to the 41 km figure from #2 above.
 * 4) Adding the planned 9.5 km length of Noord-Zuidlijn (North-South Line) to this 42.5 km figure from #3 above yields a (future) total network length value of 52 km which matches the original reference.

So, based on all of this, I'm going to go back to the previous network length figures, because I think the single reference used to justify the 52 km length has been misinterpreted. --IJBall (talk) 23:29, 14 December 2014 (UTC)


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zilvermeeuw
Im not dutch, or anything but someone needs to translate this http://www.parool.nl/parool/nl/124/VERKEER/article/detail/4211033/2015/12/19/De-Zilvermeeuw-1973-2015-einde-van-ondergronds-koekblik.dhtml I believe the old metro (series Series M1, M2 and M3) is now retired fully,

PLease update the Technology > Rolling stock section of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.162.229.236 (talk) 01:43, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

English variety
The earliest use of an identifiable English variety that I can find in this article is ("centre"). Unless anyone can find an earlier use of an earlier variety, then per MOS:RETAIN, please do not change the spellings in this article. Ibadibam (talk) 23:32, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

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Line numbers
Maybe I missed it but is there an explanation for the weird line numbers? Most metro systems have names, numbers (starting from '1') or letters so why 50, 51, etc.?-- XANIA - ЗAНИAWikipedia talk &#124; talk 00:41, 21 February 2018 (UTC)