Talk:Amylostereum/GA1

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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 20:29, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Just claiming this one now- review to follow soon. J Milburn (talk) 20:29, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Is there a good reason for this to be at Amylostereum rather than Amylostereaceae? There's moderate precedent for pages to be titled according to the highest taxonomic rank.
 * See WP:FLORA: "A family or order with a single genus is treated at the article for that genus." It was answered here btw ;).-- GoP T C N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "the crust surface" What does this mean?
 * "the surface of crusts". Done.-- GoP T C N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Reworded this part. Sasata (talk) 15:53, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "Three species of the genus are symbionts of the Sirex and Urocerus wood wasps, which infest conifers, and the wasp's larva serve as food. Especially A. areolatum became more important as a forest pest in association with the Sirex woodwasp (S. noctilio). The fungi are much more harmful in other, non-native regions, resulting in high forest decline rates." This needs to be worked on
 * Worked on it, how is it now? Sasata (talk) 15:53, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "sit directly on the bark or stick out on the edges of most species." Not clear what is meant here
 * Corrected.-- GoP T C N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "It is edged through the high-bent (effusoreflex) fungus edge on all species except..." What is? What do you mean by "edged" here?
 * Replaced with "bordered".-- GoP T C N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "Tomentum" does not seem to be explained in the link given
 * Linked to Tomentum (anatomy).-- GoP T C N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I switched this to tomentose (the plant morphology definition is more appropriate than the anatomical definition). Sasata (talk) 16:09, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "The second type creates generative hyphae." The second type is generative hyphae, surely?
 * Yes, true (incorrect translation of "bilden" (create), which in this context just means "to be"; yes German language is sometimes odd...)-- GoP T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "It is also present on many other Amylosterea" Not clear what this means. If it's present in all but one, what others are you referring to?
 * Corrected.-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "A. ferreum, however, constantly creates fruit bodies." Reference? A reference for the line before would also be useful.
 * I think the reference is from one of the "further reading" references. Saddly I don't have access to some at the moment, but Sasata might have.-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Replace the end-of-paragraph sentence with "A. ferreum is the only Amylosterum species that has not been associated with any woodwasps.", which I was able to source. I've temporarily commented out the previous sentence until I can find confirmation of the fact. Sasata (talk) 16:28, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * You mention in the Symptoms section that the wasps are "symbionts of some species"- is this correct? Which species?
 * This is a good question. I will try to find some information.-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Reworded this paragraph, and this unnecessary phrase was removed in the shuffle. Sasata (talk) 05:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "Mycologist Jacques Boidin separated the Amylostereaceae from Stereum in 1958" This isn't what the lead says (I see the issue- it's confusing that you refer to the family name, despite the fact it wasn't named for another 40 years)
 * Fixed. Sasata (talk) 17:01, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "Although the type species of the genus, nowadays A. chailletii, was initially named Trichocarpus ambiguus, the genus name Trichocarpus was already used in 1958 for a genus in the flowering plant family Malvaceae.[10]" Very complicated sentence
 * I reorganized the paragraph containing this sentence ... better now? Sasata (talk) 17:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Why the spaces before percent symbols?
 * Removed-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "as these fungi originated from Mycetangae, storing organs of Platypodinae, of a North American wood wasp," Awkward
 * Placed in brackets.-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "on the mycelium of A. areolatum" Mycelia?
 * Fixed. Sasata (talk) 17:01, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "parasitism levels of 70%–100% have been achieved.[5]" Reductions of that amount, presumably?
 * Reductions of ...-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Your further reading is formatted in a different way to your regular references
 * Done.-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 10:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I also added pmid's and doi's, and further standardized the format. This section is here only temporarily, as all of these sources will soon be integrated into the article. Sasata (talk) 23:37, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I need to take a closer look at the references and images, but this is looking like a very strong article. The writing needs checking in places, but the research and coverage seems very strong. J Milburn (talk) 21:44, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your fixes above, looking much better.
 * "They lie directly on the bark and, in most species, have edges that stick out." Seeing as the edges are explained in a second anyway, would it not be better to end this sentence at "bark"?
 * Shortened.-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 11:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Trichocarpus currently redirects here, and so should not be linked. If this is a current plant genus, then I think it should focus on that; if not, a quick dab page may be appropriate
 * Removed link-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 11:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Is there a reason that the taxonomy section has been placed below the description? It's normally the first thing in a fungal article.
 * GoP moved it up. Sasata (talk) 03:38, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Ref 9 seems to lack a publisher
 * Added-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 11:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Bulletin de la Societé Mycologique de France is a journal and so doesn't need one. Sasata (talk) 03:38, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Note that I've made a few more changes; please make sure you're happy with them. I'm happy that this is ready once the comments above have been addressed; great work, and it's nice to see a new face working on fungi! With a bit more work (bringing in the other references, another copyedit, perhaps a reworking of the images for aesthetic reasons) this could certainly have FAC potential; alternatively, if you can work up the articles on the species, you could potentially have a decent good topic. J Milburn (talk) 10:58, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :) I will work on bears, woodwasps and pyramids, btw! :)-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 11:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The changes look fine to me (although I made I few more copyedits). Thanks for reviewing this JM, there's been much improvement. Sasata (talk) 03:38, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

My apologies for leaving this; I've had a busy few weeks and this slipped my mind. It seems like everything has been dealt with; great work! I look forward to seeing similar articles in the future. I'm promoting this to GA now. J Milburn (talk) 17:05, 13 June 2012 (UTC)