Talk:Anarchy

Unjustified
I see that the word "unjustified" has been appearing in several places recently but where it is not appearing is in the references given. Would anyone like to explain this? Carptrash (talk) 17:04, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Anarchists seek the establishment of what they see as unjustified Hierarchy, (I am personally an Anarchist) keyword "unjustified", as an example Anarchists see apprenticeship of becoming a Black smith, as justified hierarchy. As the system could not operate without the system of apprenticeship and the apprentice would most not only completely fail at being a Black Smith they would also likely hurt themselves trying to figure it out. A form of Unjustified hierarchy according to Anarchists would be as an example Representative Government, as there is an unnecessary hierarchy as the the representative can not only trick voters, or get in power through non-democratic means but holds more powers then the actual voters, thusly Anarchists seek to abolish those hierarchies. It could be stated that what Anarchists see as unjustified is justified, I disagree but that's simply what Anarchists seek to achieve, and that's why there is "justified" and "non-justified". Vallee01 (talk) 22:06, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * "unjustified hierarchy" comes from the entryist Chomsky. In pretty much every accepted Anarchist theory, we are talking about all hierarchy. Hierarchy means that you use your power to make others do something they don't want. Therefore the wording "unjustified hierarchy" just sounds like an authoritarian saying that there is some justified hierarchy and therefore it's not anarchism. By the way - expertise on its own does not need to be hierarchy. Anarchism abolishes intellectual property so expertise will usually die out as being a kind of elitist thing DefendingFree (talk) 11:05, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Scope?
What exactly is the scope of this article supposed to be? The sections "anarchist movements" and "list of ungoverned communities" never mention the term "anarchy", so at first glance appear to be entirely synthetically attached to this article. The section on "state-collapse anarchy" doesn't appear to define such a term, or even have a source for it, so it appears to just be used synonymously with "failed state". As for the "Overview" section, it isn't clear how the "Anthropology" subsection relates to the concept of anarchy, and the inclusion of the "international relations" and "anarchism" sections seem to be entirely based on the relation of the two words, leaving only Kant's definition as an actually clear fit for the article.

In its current state, I have no idea what this article's purpose is and I'm not sure what it's trying to communicate either. I'm even left wondering how many of the sources verifiably use the term "anarchy". -- Grnrchst (talk) 17:59, 13 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Talk:Anarchy/Archive 5 :) czar  04:34, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * My recommendation hasn't changed: merge into Anarchism and move anarchy (disambiguation) to anarchy, as there is no "primary topic" for its different dictionary definitions. czar  04:46, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Incomplete and biased
This entry seems fairly biased against anarchy and lacks much in the way of an applied understanding of the concept/outdated though foundational, and could at the very least use more contemporary examples and definitions from the late 19th century French anarchists up to modern movements and even redefinitions by Noam Chomsky, for starters. 2001:861:3D41:8B90:7C1C:440D:F559:D2CC (talk) 10:33, 7 June 2023 (UTC)