Talk:Anastasia Prikhodko/Archive 1

Comments
seems like a hasty tagging. person might not be interested or aware of the eurovision song contest. --Judo112 (talk) 20:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Please provide reliable sources indicating significant coverage of the subject to indicate notability and I will untag Lets  drink  Tea  20:51, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No need. someone else with knowledge and interest in the contest will untag it. believe me:) cheers--Judo112 (talk) 20:58, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

3 google hits for the subject. Lets drink  Tea  21:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Surname
hey! Her surname is PrIHOďko! You have written PriKhoďko. Why? Evdokiya (talk) 20:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Odd
The article states: "In the semi-final, she was disqualified for performing the song called "Vsyo dlya tebya" from her repertoire of her earlier times of the Star Factory TV show". Was this the song she also wanted to sing in the final? — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 09:58, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No, apparently she wanted to sing "Mamo" in the final, but thought, she wasn't obliged to it before the final. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 10:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes I saw in refernce #2, it is so obvious you have to sing your entry in both semi-final and final I suspect a publicity stunt by Prikhodko or her management... but ofcourse that is WP:OR. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 10:12, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Before this all Prikhodko was relatively unknown in Ukraine?
"Prikhodko was already famous in Russia as the winner of Russian Star Factory 7 TV show, a version of “American Idol.” Still, she was relatively unknown in Ukraine". Says Kyiv Post here. Is this true? — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 09:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, can't say. I just heard about her this week. Sounds entirely possible that in Kiev she was just another graduate majoring in folk vocal while she made fame only in Russia. I don't even have an idea how much of an issue Star Factory is in the Ukraine. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 21:55, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I always have the idea Kyiv Post sometimes exaggerates things and the article is also a editorial... so better not put it in the article for now... — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:22, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Controversy
The section Controversy tells us that:
 * 1.Nazar Prikhodko wore an arm band with what appeared to be a Swastika.
 * 2.Nazar Prikhodko subsequently denied it being a swastika, and said it was a patriotic symbol.
 * 3.Nazar Prikhodko has threatened legal action against the tabloid that made the accusations
 * 4.Nazar Prikhodko was accused of taking part in a march of the UNA-UNSO.
 * 5.Nazar Prikhodko himself refuted this.
 * 6.Nazar Prikhodko himself said "I never was and will not be the UNA-UNSO member because I do not share their political views."
 * 7.Nazar Prikhodko is engaged in politics in Ukraine
 * 8.Nazar Prikhodko in December 2008 created an organization called "First Ukrainian Youth Assembly"
 * 10.Nazar Prikhodko says this group is not affiliated to any political force

Why exactly is all of this in the article? I thought the article was about, you know, Anastasiya Prikhodko... Ostap 02:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As an outsider (not from a Slavic country) I'm not going to take a very strong stand on this matter. I don't have a very good perception of the general context of different kinds of views in the Slavic countries called "nationalism" by the tabloids, and how much of a problem it is. However, evidence on Prikhodko's views should belong to this article. Providing, she openly shares her views with her brother, evidence on Nazar's views may serve as material on Prikhodko's views (as there is little reliable material available on herself on that matter). I don't have a good solution right away, how to present evidence on Nazar in the way it would actually concentrate on Prikhodko's views. This should be the goal, however. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 09:44, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I must admit I overdid it a bit (I was the one who put the Nazar Prikhodko in the aricle). I'm not sure how much controversy there was about Mr. Nazar and if the views are shared by the whole famaly... Mabey in the "Early life" section a remark like "Prikhodko's brother Nazar is engaged in Ukrainian politics, in December 2008 created an organization called "First Ukrainian Youth Assembly", during Star Factory controversy earesed when on the internet photo's started to curcilate in wich he seems to were a an arm band with what appeared to be a Swastika. The rest of the old Nazar info could go to the footnotes section. Mabey also a line like "it is curently unknown what Anastasiya's view are on her brothers activatis". No journalist asked her about the "Swastika photo"? Or what she thinks about her brothers political "career"? Blimey... I would... — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 11:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Your proposal could still do with a focus on Anastasiya's views. No matter what his brother does, we shouldn't add it until it's proven that she has got something to do about it. It's stupid to have a statement in an encyclopedia beginning with: "It's unknown..." An encyclopedia is about facts and "unknown" is, well, a kind of an opposite to facts. A fortiori, following a section describing Nazar's involvement in nationalist movements, the statement: "It is unknown, what are Anastasiya's political views," will obviously be perceived as a direct allegation. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 12:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

These are just silly tabloid accusations about her brother (not even about her!) Remember WP:BLP:
 * "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid paper"

Aside from the obvious issue of reliable sources and WP:BLP, this stuff really isn't about her at all, it is about her brother a different person. Putting it here seems like trying to associate her with it. Ostap 23:40, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Encyclopadic?
I love to include lines like: in the Yulia Tymoshenko wiki article :), but won't cause it is hardly encyclopadic... — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 08:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * "On and off stage, Prikhodko usually acts naturally"
 * "Prikhodko's positive nature was described by the official site of the Eurovision Song Contest as: "...kind, smart and friendly..."


 * Yeah, I've translated the first one incorrectly, but the second excerpt is a quote from the profiles of Prikhodko on eurovision.tv and esc.com, which should be ok. If there's a problem with the introduction to the quote, please try to come up with a better one. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 10:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

2 officials websites
She has 2 officials websites this one + this one? (Last one hasn't been updated in ages.) —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  12:03, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Tour in 10 East Ukrainian cities from 17 to 27 June, 2009?
Did this happen? Site/source only mentions event in August. Sites doesn't mention a lot of activity anyhow, is/has she doing things lately? —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  12:03, 21 August 2009 (UTC)