Talk:Ancient European history

This page is a high level entry of basic info referring to other level of topics. Classical antiquity (a point within ancient history IIRC) and Prehistoric Europe (something that IS NOT part of ancient history) are different topics. J. D. Redding 19:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * you do not "recall correctly". "Ancient history" in the case of Europe co-incides with "Classical Antiquity". dab (𒁳) 18:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Merge
Please state a reason ... J. D. Redding 19:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Classical antiquity = a point within ancient history ... Prehistoric Europe IS NOT part of ancient history (that's why it's prehistoric!). J. D. Redding 19:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Fine. But you are distinguishing Classical antiquity from Ancient Greece and Rome, which is wrong. How do you distinguish between Classical antiquity and some other part of ancient European history and stay within Europe? Then you also mention cultures in Africa and Asia, which surely don't belong in an article on Europe. And, a fairly trivial matter, I don't think HISTORYofworld.net a reliable source for anything. This should be a redirection to Classical antiquity --Doug Weller (talk) 19:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * 1st ... Have you read when ancient greece and ancient Rome  begins?!?!?! one begin 750 BC and the other begin 9th century BC. Both after writings existent in ancient Europe.
 * 2nd ... yes they need to be removed / moved to the appropriate article ... this is a new page. Improve it!
 * ... inclusion of inforamtion about Germanic peoples (such as Germanic Iron Age, Migration Period and other appropriate info) should be included! ancient european history is more than greece and rome!
 * J. D. Redding 20:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, Linear A is older, but history is drawn from texts, and if you can't read them, there is no history you can write about.--Doug Weller (talk) 21:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

There is the concept of proto-history. Usually, we require historiography in order to classify a culture as "historical". Scattered epigraphy doesn't make for "historicity". Of course, the process of a culture entering the historical period begins with epigraphy. There is no clean line that can be drawn. This is beside the point. The point is, we don't need this article, because we have Bronze Age Europe, Iron Age Europe, Prehistoric Europe and Classical Antiquity. This can at best be a disambiguation page. dab (𒁳) 18:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)