Talk:And Thereby Hangs a Tale

Third Party sources
I don't see why there should be third party sources for the information there is here. All that is said in the substance of the article is a table of contentsEugene-elgato (talk) 14:37, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the publication date, fact it's sixth book of short stories, and claims about which are meant to be based on true/known stories and which his imagination are all in that book.Eugene-elgato (talk) 14:39, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * While the basic information here can be cited to the book itself, I quote from Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines "If no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it." There needs to be 3rd party reliable sources to satisfy the Verifiability and Notability guidelines. I know that they are out there, but an article solely referencing the book does not belong at Wikipedia and fails WP:NB. The tag is designed to bring editors in with 3rd party sources that are not inherently WP:POV. --Fiftytwo thirty (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, i don't disagree and of course those citations will be found shortly. However I would like also to make a point here about how that rule can be a tad absurd; for instance where it comes to Archer stating in a paragraph long prologue about how some of these stories were collected on his travels and the others being the result of his imagination (or so he claims) there can be no source more reliable than that book itself for an article on that book. Likewise a table of contents is not normatively loaded it is pure and simply positive information that is what it is. I do not have an opinion on whether this or that is the table of contents in Archer's book. On the other hand clearly there needs to be some external validation that there is something of note in Archer's new bookEugene-elgato (talk) 16:07, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * As I stated, that kind of information can be found from the book, but 3rd party sources are necessary also. --Fiftytwo thirty (talk) 16:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Jeez, why didn't either of you just add some sources instead of arguing about it? Eugene, all articles need outside sources, a stub lacking them is almost useless. Fiftytwo thirty, in the time you spent posting here and tagging the article you could have found some sources yourself. I've now added some sources. Fences  &amp;  Windows  20:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

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