Talk:Andasol solar power station

Discussion
It is too much an advertisement now.

I changed 260 back to 310, because there is no reference for 260.

Lkruijsw (talk) 22:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You are right, this now an advertisement page. As I`m from germany, I have better access to details of the project and so I know about the problems, too.
 * I have inserted one of these problems (water consumption), which is especially a problem, if a similar project is constructed in a dry region in the western part of the USA, just like that Solar Millienium offers in this times in particular to investors. Even as a reference for Desertec the water consumtion is an invalidating argument.
 * Another problem is, Andasol is producing since two years now, but no production numbers are annonced - it is to be guessed, they are much below the expectations. Investors are supposed to wait and look.
 * Please be free to correct my mistakes or to contact me using the german Wikipedia!--Lemant (talk) 13:02, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Principle of Operation
It would be nice if the article explained how the power station works, i.e. sunlight striking the parabolic-trough mirrors is focused onto tubes filled with oil, which warms to more than 752 degrees Farenheit (400 degrees Celsius). That hot oil is used to boil water, which produces steam, which spins a turbine. Plus explanation of how part of the energy is stored in salt and retrieved to heat the oil when the sun is not shining. Nasorenga (talk) 16:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Rename
Suggest to rename this article to 'Andasol solar power stations', to cover al Andasol stations. Lkruijsw (talk) 22:12, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it be best to have a separate article for each one, so we could easily refer to them individually in articles such as List of solar thermal power stations? Johnfos (talk) 23:21, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Annual GW-h increased from 180 to 540
After consulting the equations found in the Capacity factor article, I found a huge discrepancy between Andasol's nameplate capacity and its annual generation. Here was the problem:

180 GW-h for 150MW nameplate capacity = capacity factor of 0.14

But the article had a link to a page which stated that the capacity factor was 0.41. Was this simply a switching of numbers? A 0.14 capacity factor is actually lower than most Photovoltaics, something which Andasol is better than because of its molten salt storage. So instead I did the equations again and this is what I came up with:

540 GW-h for 150MW nameplate capacity = capacity factor of 0.41

540 is conveniently three times 180. Andasol has three power plants in total. A capacity factor of 0.41 is what is described in the link above.

The problem is that the wording of the various links does not describe the GW-h for all three plants, but each single one. It gives the initial impression of 180 GW-h and 150MW but a more careful look at the text shows that it's 180 GW-h for each plant (thus a total of 540 GW-h).

So, in short, it is 180 GW-h for 50MW nameplate capacity, multiplied by three.

Look at this source:

"With net electricity output of around 150 GWh per year and a collector surface area of over 510,000 square meters these are the largest solar power plants in the world."

Note that the text says these are the largest solar power plants (plural) as opposed to this is the largest solar plant (singular). Since there are three power plants, the text is obviously referring to each one when it says that net output is 150 GWh per year.

--One Salient Oversight (talk) 08:20, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

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Capitalization of the title
I hope you're well. QQ. should this be Andasol Solar Power Station as it is now, or should be it Andasol solar power station? Cheers &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 15:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC)


 * It appears to be widely lowercase in books, and even in web and news hits. Dicklyon (talk) 03:24, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

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First solar power station in Europe to Provide Grid Electricity
It should be mentioned that apart from the Gemasolar prototype solar power station near Seville, this is the first large solar power station that runs 24/7 and provides grid electricity like Gemasolar does. This is in stark contrast to solar panels that do not produce grid electricity and do not provide power 24/7. This contrast with solar panels is important and should be emphasised. In addition, the materials used here can mostly be recycled whereas solar panels cannot be recycled. BrianAnalogue (talk) 21:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)