Talk:Andean music/Archive 1

Traditional Inca Music
Does anyone know of a traditional Inca music group or at least a recording of as-traditional-as-possible Incan music? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.189.199.180 (talk) 21:50, 18 December 2006 (UTC).
 * All the genres of Andean music which traditionally are played without string instruments (tarqueada, sikuri, k'antu, chuqilada, chiriguano etc.) are practically 100% pure of spanish influence. My favorite group is Bolivia Manta, it has recorded many examples of such music. Raoul NK 11:26, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

"100% pure of spanish influence"? Andean music is very largely spanish-based and african rhythms-based, like all latin-american music. Andean music is probably less "african" and more "hispanic" that other latin-american styles, that's all. The andean melodies are obviously related to the traditional hispanic songs of the time, and you can check it hearing spanish folk songs (not flamenco, that is a mixture of european hispanic and arabic north-african sounds), like the castillian folk group La Musgaña (search "Las Hilanderas" on YouTube). The songs, guitars, harps, drums, etc. All it's hispanic-based. "Only" use of bamboo flutes and panpipes and presence of native languages in song lyrics can be considered truly indigenous. Andean native peoples gave a different flavour to hispanic music and created their own style of music, but in essence andean music is nearly all european (hispanic) folk-based and partially african-based in rhythm (latin-american music form) with few (although very remarkable) native features. It's true that andean music is "indigenous" in the sense that is developed along centuries by native andean communities and it's a major cultural feature of that communities, but "indigenism" of andean music itself has been over-exaggerated. Finally, reference to "Inca music"... it's a joke, true? Andean music is not "inca" or "prehispanic music", it's latin-american andean post-colonial music, in the same way that irish and scottish music is not "celtic music", it's irish and scottish post-medieval music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.25.180.170 (talk) 19:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read my comment again. I mention such genres as tarqueada, sikuri, k'antu, chuqilada, and chiriguano. Search them at YouTube (e.g., , etc.) and make sure they are very far related to spanish folk music and, in contrast, clearly follow pre-Columbian tradition. Raoul NK (talk) 11:22, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yet another nice example: (military dance) Raoul NK (talk) 09:39, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

This page should be linked to Huayno and there should be a discussion of the similarities and differences of "Andean Music" with "Pan-American" Andean Music (i.e., music produced with commercial appeal), Huayno, Huaylash, Sayas, and, even "Andean Cumbia". Jorgecatolica1 (talk) 22:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC) J M

I wanted to ask that any reedits consider that in the introduction where it says things like "Originally from Bolivia" etc it is almost saying that Bolivia came first and the Aymara people after, and not the other way around. It is simple to rephrase this so as not to prescribe us a specific country. There is a lot of nationalism around these identities as the Chilenization process and its counterparts frequently call on national identities as a way to eradicate our trans-border cultures, and my father as well as a lot of other Aymara people stopped speaking our language after being called "bolivian" by bullies at school, but in truth there are Aymaras in Bolivia, Chile, Argentina and Peru and now many other places, and there are Quechua people in Chile too, who live in communities right next to the Aymara ones. Furthermore, some sikus and other types of music are only meant to be played in certain parts of the Andes. It is usually quite known among aymara yatichiris(teachers) what constitutes colonised and non colonised, and many will say there are arab influences too, and many local bands and musicians in Peru, Chile and Bolivia at least, who still play this string-free form of music. 2A00:23C7:BB03:F101:7466:F44B:A552:BB8A (talk) 14:41, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

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I have replaced Wendy Sulca image with doubtful legal status by another image which seems more appropriate Raoul NK (talk) 12:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

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