Talk:Andreas F. Prein

Feedback from New Page Review process
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Not notable as currently written, with his publication record to date, no major national or international awards and no articles about him. Just having a chair is not enough. Please improve, as otherwise it would be appropriate to either move it back to a draft or have a deletion discussion.

Ldm1954 (talk) 12:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * ?hi can yo uplease point me to the correct page for the relevance of a university professor. what i notice, if i reply here with a question mark the editor tries to put it in the beginning like in spanish. you have it as well? ThurnerRupert (talk) 07:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The relevant page is WP:NPROF (linked, as are others below) which lists the various criteria. He has made a good start, but his h-factors of 34 is low compared to major figures in his area. A low h-factor can be compensated for by major awards such as APS Fellow, FRS (UK) or similarly. His Aug 2022 CV has only minor awards, and grants ($$) don't count unless they are vast -- this is considered part of the job. If there were multiple articles about him that would also help, but I don't see any in a quick sesrch. It may be WP:TOO SOON.
 * N.B., I don't get a ? at the be beginning, but the built in editor can sometimes be quirky. Ldm1954 (talk) 11:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * is following applicable? "The person has held a distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, a named chair appointment that indicates a comparable level of achievement, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon." becoming one of the 122 ETH professors, ETHZ beeing number 11 in times world ranking, number 9 in physical sciences seems to be challenging? ThurnerRupert (talk) 07:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but 1 of 122 is not distinguished. 1 of 10 would be. Nic Spencer is notable, here but does not seem to have a page. He is a comparison point. Ldm1954 (talk) 07:50, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * thank you for the reference. let me check this in more detail. currently i am looking at staff numbers of MIT, and ethz employs 13'000 persons, 7'000 scientific staff, 500 or so professors. they have ca 100 assistant professors, not sure how many associate professors, and full professors. prein is full professor. ThurnerRupert (talk) 15:02, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Full Prof is not notable by itself, sorry, staff numbers don't matter. Ldm1954 (talk) 15:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Minor clarification. Many years ago a strong university department, for instance an Oxbridge chemistry department, would have one "Professor" who ran the place and had all sorts of awards. I just counted and the Oxford chemistry department has 50 full professors (!). It is "professor inflation", somewhat similar to "grade inflation". Ldm1954 (talk) 15:15, 21 July 2024 (UTC)