Talk:Andreas Tsipas

He aint Bulgarian.
Laveol, stop trying to relenlessly Bulgarianise him. He was a proud ethnic Macedonian and led NOF. He is not Bulgarian. Please give me a reason or I will seek further advice. PMK1 (talk) 09:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

As he declated Bulgarian ethnicity and later Macedonian meant that he did not make a big diference. Your POV is not relevant. Jingby (talk) 09:45, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh please, the sources dont claim that he was Bulgarian but merely have his name written in Bulgarian. Especially since one is a translation. If there is not evidence apart from his name bieng written in a foreign language. This is NOT reason for this foreign name to appear in the title, read WP:NAME and Naming conventions (common names). Please give a source otherwise this propaganda will be removed. PMK1 (talk) 11:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

When his name was wrotten in Bulgarian its Macedonian dialects were still not codified. Jingby (talk) 11:59, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I would suggest PMK to drop the nationalistic wording and read it again. He declared he was Bulgarian - that's enough for an encyclopedia. What you think of him is irrelevant. Claiming that everybody from a certain geographic area are of a certain ethnicity only is unscientific at the least. I've asked you to give it some thought a number of times, but I see you haven't. Read some Anthony D. Smith or anything other than propaganda, please. -- L a v e o l  T 15:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Where is your source, the first source only has his name in the Bulgarian language. It is a good spelling lesson at most where as your other source is a direct quote of a quote from Bulgarian wikipedia. He declared himself to be a Bulgarian? This quote from the article sums it up "which was regarded as Bulgarian by the Bulgarian authorities", anything and everything is declared to be Bulgarian by Bulgarians. This sentiment is only shared by them however. You in fact are making accusations that you cannot back up. Please provide sources, not all coming from promacedonia.org but also the real world. PMK1 (talk) 00:16, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

If anybody must provide sorces, this are you. Jingby (talk) 06:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Enough is enough. I'm tired of random droppings here and there. You have not provided a single source and come an bash it all. I'll repeat it again: He self-identified as Bulgarian (fact): You're not the one to say he was this or that (fact); and what should "It is a good spelling lesson at most where as your other source is a direct quote of a quote from Bulgarian wikipedia" mean anyway? -- L a v e o l  T 08:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * L O L

27 of Greek Communists declared that they were "Bulgarians" only to get free. Lazarides' wife was sentenced to death from the Bulgarians. Lazarides was a Pontic Greek and was not speak not a word from the slavic/bulgarian language. He just declared that he was a Bulgarian to get free.

THEY WERE GREEK COMMUNISTS NOT BULGARIAN FASCISTS.

Here is the list about 27 Greek communists in Greek. If you want just translate to English. https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%91%CF%80%CE%B5%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%85%CE%B8%CE%AD%CF%81%CF%89%CF%83%CE%B7_%CF%84%CF%89%CE%BD_%CE%9C%CE%B1%CE%BA%CE%B5%CE%B4%CF%8C%CE%BD%CF%89%CE%BD_%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%BC%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%B9%CF%83%CF%84%CF%8E%CE%BD

I will answer in whatever you bring. Stop the nationalist propaganda. 10:45, 7 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Istoria1944 (talk • contribs)

L O L
Tsipas was a Greek Communist, but he was also an alcoholic. Its simply craps that he was an agent of Bulgarian army. He was just following the Greek Communist Party politics about the Macedonian territory. Nothing more, and nothing else.

STOP the nationalist propaganda. He was a COMMUNIST not a FASCIST Bulgarian, Macedonian, Greek or whatever.--Istoria1944 (talk) 09:29, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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