Talk:Andrew, Duke of Calabria

King of Naples or merely Duke of Calabria
I've noticed that es.wikipedia and fr.wikipedia refer to him as a king of Naples. I've checked it, and many English language sources do indeed describe him as king of Naples. Why don't we? Surtsicna (talk) 18:32, 1 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Do you have any English-language sources that describe this period of Neapolitan history in detail? I've had trouble finding them. I think the reason he's generally described as "Duke of Calabria" is that he was crowned only as a consort, not as King in his own right. Choess (talk) 12:32, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * He was not crowned at all; he was assassinated after the Pope decreed that he should be crowned, but before the coronation went ahead. His claim to the throne rested on his status as "lord and master" of his wife, the heiress, but also on him being her senior according to primogeniture (his grandfather was an older brother of her grandfather). Surtsicna (talk) 16:19, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, here it is. link "King Robert ... designated his granddaughter, Joan, as his only heir. Her Hungarian husband had to content himself with the title "duke of Calabria". Louis and his mother [Elizabeth] did their utmost to have the decision annulled and to secure the crown for Andrew. ... All that Elizabeth was able to achieve was the Pope's consent to Andrew being crowned. However, before the papal bull containting this decision could be issued, the news arrived that the duke had been strangled..." It goes on to say that Joan's second husband, Louis (another Angevin and cousin of both her and Andrew), was "even accorded the royal title by the Pope". It appears that our article is correct, and es.wiki and fr.wiki are wrong. Surtsicna (talk) 17:18, 3 December 2013 (UTC)