Talk:Andrew Bates (game designer)

Article talking about an Andrew Bates?
I cannot determine whether this article is about the same person as the Trinity creator. It could be about a different person since it does not mention his illustration and game design work.

The article notes: "Nerd Louisville's birth in May of 2015 was, of course, nerdy. Co-founders Mike Pfaff and Andrew Bates have long been involved in Louisville's gaming culture and wondered why there wasn't a central online hub where people could meet and learn about events. Bates, who leads the Planning and Compliance Division of the Louisville Metro Department of Resilience and Community Services, was immersed in the world of non-profits but had no real-world experience in running one. Pfaff convinced Bates that a nerd-centric group and website was the ideal non-profit opportunity and Nerd Louisville was born. ... It was an eye-opener for Bates that students didn't have their own books, which are de rigueur for any level of gamer. "That was a surprise to me and really put it into perspective," said Bates, 48. "I grew up pretty middle class, and when I played Dungeons & Dragons, I begged my parents a little bit, and they got me the books. The books are $40 and a struggling family isn't going to drop $40 on books."" BOZ (talk) 15:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Books vs novels
Hi @User:BOZ, we seem to be edit-warring over the use of the word "books" or "novels". You have contended that the paragraph prior to the one in question mentions books written by Bates, but this is not the case. The paragraph mentions games, and it may be obvious to you that tabletop role-playing games are accompanied by books, but this is far from obvious to most people. In my view, if you wish to distinguish between novels and books, you need to make it clear that Bates did more than create games—he also wrote books to go with each one. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 17:31, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm not really all that concerned about this, if you don't want to refer to his novels as novels, and just want to call them the more generic term of "books" instead, I'm not going to fight you over it. If you don't consider role-playing game books as books, then I'm probably not going to convince you that they are books. BOZ (talk) 17:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @User:BOZ, your response is not helpful. I'm not claiming that role-playing game books are not books—did you not read what I wrote? "...it may be obvious to you that tabletop role-playing games are accompanied by books, but this is far from obvious to most people." ::It's not a question of convincing anyone but rather making the content clear to the reader. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 17:44, 1 May 2024 (UTC)