Talk:Andy Goldsworthy/Archive 1

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is your work temporary or permanent?

Recently I was looking at one of several books of AG’s art. I've been in awe of his work for nearly two decades. Nothing he creates is, - wood or stone rarely retains any of the natural qualities of the material. The smooth plasticity of clay becomes a hard, stone-like material with an imposed surface texture and stone is polished to remove the natural roughness of fractured surfaces. What make AG’s creations so wonderful is that the natural character of the materials is entirely retained in the finished work: The colour of leaves and stones, the texture of sand and clay, the roughness of twigs and the opacity of natural ice. I can't think of a single work that incorporates any synthetic material. Everything is held together by natural forces such as gravity or surface tension, or by thorns and strips of natural vegetation. All his works are formed from natural objects and most are created in sympathy with their natural surroundings. What makes his work unique is a fundamental philosophy of natural objects arranged in their environment to enhance the existing beauty of nature.

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Vandalism
Yeah -- someone seems intent on calling him "Mouldsworthy" ... which is not nearly as funny of a pun as they think. Ah well. --new user

Does anybody know why this page is undergoing the stready stream of vandalism it's been experiencing? It's getting annoying to be fixing it every time I check my watchlist. --Misterwindupbird


 * Added to my watchlist in order to help keep an eye on it. You could always request temporary protection if the vandalism gets too out of hand. I love Goldsworthys stuff BTW... quercus robur 18:54, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Publications
Some of the publications seem fairly spurious - I intend to delete everything I can't find a reference to when I get some time. -- Kvetner 20:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[Unsigned comment]
'''hiya, I am studying art at school and i wondered if anyone knew any major events that happened in his life that could have had a large infulence on his artwork? thanks'''


 * Hi, this Talk page is for discussing how the article can be improved, not for a general discussion on Andy Goldsworthy. Also, please sign all comments with four tildes ( ~ ). Thanks. Cheers, Jacklee 22:08, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Quotations
Quote: "This article or section contains too many quotations for an encyclopedic entry." I dont know about anyone else but I dont like this kind of comment on the main page of a site left hanging like graffiti. I found the quotes helpful in understanding the man and his work, and I do wish articles weren't constantly being vandalised by expert wikipedia contributors using these kind of comments and notes - if you want to edit it, edit it boldly, please dont leave litter all over it! I'm about to follow my own advice and delete it.! Excalibur 21:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Imprint information for first publication
Hi, Jmarob. On two occasions you've removed the original imprint information of books by Goldsworthy and replaced it with what appears to be imprint information relating to recent reprints of the books. However, it is useful for readers to know when the books were first published. I would suggest that you add the reprint information as follows:


 * Reprinted as
 * Reprinted as

— Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 13:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * This user is spamming Crescent Moon books on wiki. See User talk:Jmarob and contributions: the only edits are to insert these titles into articles. Please assess the inclusion in this article.  Ty  01:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


 * If the information is genuine, I don't think there's any problem with including it in the article provided the original information is not removed (which is what Jmarob has been doing). It may be useful for readers to know that the works have been reprinted. — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 07:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See Manual of Style (lists of works) for the preferred style of including multiple printings. :) -- Quiddity 16:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's useful. Thanks. — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 07:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Further Reading section
This section is really unnecessary... it is being spammed by User talk:Jmarob who has a conflict of interest If people want to find books about Andy Goldsworthy they can easily Google them or look them up on Amazon? The Barbara Hepworth article for instance has no further reading section. Teapotgeorge (talk) 20:57, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Jmarob indef blocked as spam only account.  Ty  21:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Artistic Styles
The Moonlit Path was at Petworh, but the Chalk Stones Trail was a five mile walk through the heart of the south downs from Cocking Hill, through the West Dean Woods and ending in West Dean. Installed in 2002 some are still there - took a photo today of the one at West Dean Douglas08 (talk) 14:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Douglas08 (talk • contribs)


 * Why not upload one of your photographs to the Wikimedia Commons under the GNU Free Documentation License or a Creative Commons licence and add it to the article? Feel free to post a message here or e-mail me if you need help. — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 16:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Problem in the Biography section
There are a few major errors in this article that need attention; most notably, the information taken from the Cass source in the Biography section. The sentence: "It has been said that his gradual drift northwards was "due to a way of life over which he did not have complete control", but that contributing factors were opportunities and desires to work in these areas and "reasons of economy." really seems to have issues. First of all "it has been said" is weak. If the statement has not been made by a) a group of several experts or b) someone of key influence on the subject, then the fact in question probably doesn't meet verifiability. The Cass Sculpture foundation website does not provide an author for the biography nor does it show that it has been reviewed or published, which does not really make it a reliable source. Secondly, though the Cass source is in question, this article seems to almost completely plagiarize its content, putting some direct quotes in quotation marks and leaving bits of quoted material outside, doing very little to paraphrase. My first impulse is to remove the lines altogether, though I do think that his reason for changing location can be found in a better source that can justify its claims, so for now I will leave it alone but might try to make the sentence stronger.Mrathel (talk) 15:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the "way of life over which he did not have complete control" is painfully vague. Even if it is quoted material, it is poorly written. Its like saying "He moved north because of the way things went" or "he moved north because a lot of things happened that he could not stop". What does this whole sentence say: He moved north because he could not help it, because he wanted to, and because it was economical. Why could he not control it? What specific types of work did it help, and what on earth was the "economy" involved? Mrathel (talk) 15:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Feel free to go ahead and improve the article. — Cheers, Truth's Out There  –talk– 06:20, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Preston Polytechnic
When Andy Goldsworthy was a student, the art department of Preston Polytechnic was not in Preston, but in Lancaster, in the Storey Institute. His first catalogued works were made in the garden adjoining this building. See: http://www.goldsworthy.cc.gla.ac.uk/image/?id=ag_00001 and http://www.goldsworthy.cc.gla.ac.uk/image/?id=ag_00002 Fruitflier (talk) 23:24, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Pending changes
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Please update the Queue page as appropriate.

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Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 23:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC).

Image about to be deleted?
Just a quick query, as part of getting my head around the licensing/etc for a pic of a generic Chalk Stones Trail boulder, I noticed that the image of the Spire is flagged for deletion (no FoP in the US, unlike a couple of the other ones which are from the UK where we do have a FoP of sorts) - what's the handling for something like this? Fuzi (talk) 00:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Adding image and photo of Wood Line
I'd like to add Wood Line to the table of works, but I'm not authorized http://www.presidio.gov/explore/Pages/andy-goldsworthy-spire-wood-line.aspx Derecognize (talk) 07:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Canyou please tell me where it is?. Once you have, change answered=yes to answered=no above, and I will come back and look at it. Also, please find a image I can use. Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 15:29, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

nalibixvagu518
Amazing this is a advantageous websites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.25.24.215 (talk) 22:41, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 September 2013
On the page there is currently no picture of the Storm King Wall. I visited the establishment recently and took a picture. Feel free to use this picture of the storm king wall:

http://www.mikedidonato.com/images/2013/09/StormkingWall.png

Mikedidonato (talk) 13:00, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ❌ We can't use external images, only ones that have been uploaded here or to the Commons. -- Diannaa (talk) 01:33, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

more
ithink u should write more about him — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.155.109.246 (talk) 10:18, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

"Wall" at Kentuck Knob, Chalk Hill, PA, USA
Goldsworthy's work "Wall" is installed on the grounds of the Frank Lloyd Wright house "Kentuck Knob" in Chalk Hill, Pennsylvania. The grounds of Kentuck Knob contain sculptures from the collection of UK Lord Peter Palumbo, who owns the house and property. Image - http://kentuckknob.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/from-Jim-Judkis-246.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.79.200 (talk) 16:45, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Publications
There is a new publication by Andy Goldsworthy.

Andy Goldsworthy (2015). Andy Goldsworthy: Ephemeral Works: 2004-2014. New York: NY Harry N. Abrams. ISBN-10: 1419717790 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aechristie (talk • contribs) 19:55, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Added to pubs list, thanks. DBaK (talk) 22:40, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Edit request: factual error
Goldsworthy is no longer AD White Professor-at-large at Cornell University.

http://adwhiteprofessors.cornell.edu/all-professors-at-large-1965-to-june-30-2019/

Yellow Crocus1 (talk) 10:56, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ amended and reffed, thanks DBaK (talk) 22:57, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Life and Career Information Outdated
In the Life and Career section, there is a sentence that reads, "He is currently an A.D. White Professor-At-Large at Cornell University." He has not been an A.D. White Professor-At-Large at Cornell University since 2008 so this information needs to be updated. See http://adwhiteprofessors.cornell.edu/all.html

Regards, Chilloutahotsec (talk) 18:15, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ amended and reffed, thanks. Sorry about the wait! :) DBaK (talk) 22:58, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

a b "Artworks of Herring Island Environmental Sculpture Park". Vicnet. Retrieved 15 March 2013.
Please change the web address to

www.herringisland.org/arts.htm

Thanks

Stanley Barker, webmaster, Friends of Herring Island — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.149.120.70 (talk) 10:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅, thank you, and sorry about the wait (what's a couple of years between friends?) - best wishes DBaK (talk) 23:19, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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