Talk:Angel food cake

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name
Why is the main heading "angel cake"? I would say that "angel food cake" is the usual name. The unabridged Random House dictionary has only angel food cake. Kdammers (talk) 04:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Language
"likened to the idea" makes absolutely no sense. I changed it to "popularized". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.47.43 (talk) 12:01, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

UK / US Difference?
This doesn't appear to be the same thing as is sold under the name "Angel Cake" in the UK, for example:, a three-coloured, three-layer light sponge sandwiched together with buttercream. Any chance of a separate Uk Angel Cake article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghughesarch (talk • contribs) 23:58, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

A modest proposal
Given Kdammers' point that the name of this cake is Angel Food Cake, and given the existence of a quite different Angel Cake in the UK, I propose to replace the redirect page at Angel cake with a new stub Angel cake article to describe actual Angel Cake. - Paul (talk) 16:24, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Query about the photograph
The photograph does not look like what I think of as angel cake. Here in the United Kingdom, angel cakes do not have icing on, but it looks as if the cake in the photograph does. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 09:12, 23 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Nor do Angel Food Cakes normally. Berry fruits and whipping cream are usually added. Jimj wpg (talk) 01:56, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Query about this redirect
Clicking on the talk page for angel cake, one gets here, yet there we are told not to confuse angel cake and angel food cake. Something needs to be sorted out. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 00:38, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Left over from a move that was contested. I changed the redirect. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 17:13, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Abby Fisher, the first Black American woman
The second sentence in the second paragraph in the History section refers to "Abby Fisher, the first Black American woman", which makes no sense. Some qualifying clause has been lost, I suspect. Could someone fix this? Jbartelt9 (talk) 17:31, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Citation-Needed Line in History Section
The history section had a line without citation suggesting that some food historians believe the cake was originated by African-American slaves, because of the need for strong arms to whip it. Without any citation, this seems to be a baseless and borderline racist line. (Samgreenlee (talk) 20:10, 9 May 2012 (UTC))


 * discussing racism is not the same as racism --- in fact, trying to suppress any mention of racist ideas is counterproductive from an anti-racism point of view. angelfood persists as an oblique racist slur to this day in the US, by the way, along with such delicacies as chicken legs, watermelon, hominy grits, shortnin' bread, alligator ribs, pig tails, black eyed peas, hot chilies, and collard greens.137.205.183.109 (talk) 10:21, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Alternate Ingredients
Some commercial angel food cakes (and apparently some angel food cake mixes) do not use cream of tartar, but use sodium lauryl sulfate (detergent) instead. Wal-Mart currently does. Hy-Vee formerly did, but recently has changed to cream of tartar, but without any noticeable change in labeling. As some people might be allergic to one or the other ingredient, it needs to be clearly stated in the main article. The amount of SLS used should be found out and stated.

Also needed is the chemical name of cream of tartar (potassium bitartrate) in parentheses, or something such as (not tartar sauce), or both, as some people do not bother to follow links to term definitions and might easily misunderstand. agb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.233.167.122 (talk) 17:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Suggested Improvements
The first sentence under the History section would make more sense under Description. Also the second paragraph in Description should be separated into two paragraphs: the first about the pan/baking and the second about toppings/additional flavors.

A reference is needed for why egg yokes are not used in Angel Food Cake. Also reference is needed for why cake flour is better and it may be helpful to explain why the lack of fat in cake flour causes a light texture and taste.MollyWicks (talk) 20:39, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Kudos
So much fun - but also relevant - information here. Loved it. PurpleChez (talk) 14:57, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Sponge cake or foam cake?
Is it Sponge cake or a foam cake? --Mezze stagioni (talk) 09:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * They are the same thing. Michel Suas can be considered a reliable source for this topic. Spudlace (talk) 18:13, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If they are the same thing, Sponge cake and Foam cake articles should be united? --Mezze stagioni (talk) 22:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

“Peak popularity”?
I think the intro paragraph claim that angel food cake reached peak popularity in the early 2000s should be deleted. The reference citation is a cookbook published in 2003, “All-American desserts : 400 star-spangled, razzle-dazzle recipes for America's best loved desserts”. It doesn’t look like the author quantified popularity, plus, what if popularity increased in the 18 years since that book was published? Limely8899 (talk) 22:08, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

✅ Spudlace (talk) 19:00, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

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Molecular and structural composition section
Is this section necessary? It seems far too in depth for this article and would probably fit better in a Baking science article. BaduFerreira (talk) 00:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)