Talk:Angela Lansbury/Archive 1

Ireland extradition
Deirdre Angela Shaw Battarrais was a member of the Manson family. Her family took her to Ireland to avoid publicity and possible testimony. At that, Ireland had no extradition with the US. The line about her and husbands restaurant seems like a plug to me. I remember those murders being that I was 25 at the time and was one of the ones to respond to the scene. She and some others got off easy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.141.197.194 (talk) 04:38, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


 * You may be right -- the "Republic of Ireland" hardly ever honors any extradition requests made of it, even today. They haven't approved an extradition request from the US since 1999, and their lobbyists and fifth columnists in this country keep the public from knowing and from any pressure being brought to bear. As far as Deirdre Shaw, I cannot say if she had any part in the crimes perpetrated, but I can understand her parents' instincts to protect their child. Her drug history is no secret, and if there were a warrant outstanding for her she couldn't ever re-enter the US again, so maybe she had no role in the horrific events. Someone deleted the entire subject from her wikipage, anyway, and I don't know if it's worth it to get into a rv war over it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.194.1.247 (talk) 10:00, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Picture
ALSO--PLEASE--WHOEVER IS READING THIS--PLEASE CHANGE THE PHOTO OF LANSBURY. There are lots of nice photos of Angela Lansbury, the very creepy one on her wikipage (looks like Serial Mom plus 20 years) is not a nice photo. It is CREEPY!!! 216.194.1.247 10:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Again, can anyone please change the image (not even a photo) that appears on Lansbury's page -- it is really creepy (like Serial Mom + 20 years or more). There are lots of nice photos of Lansbury all around. If I knew how to scan photos and move pixels (or whatever they are) I would.


 * PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 * Thanks, 216.194.60.3 22:06, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Deuce
The link her links to the disambiguation page for the word Deuce, which doesn't mention the broadway production. 68.45.4.118 16:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Image
If we have to have non-fair use images on the infobox, can we at least get rid of that complete-and-utter randomer standing next to her? We see more of her than we do of Angela.Dalejenkins 18:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I've put back the image of Lansbury with Beatrice Arthur. Someone before changed it to a picture of Lansbury as Jessica Fletcher but then someone changed it back to the one currently in the article. I don't see why it shouldn't be used, it's a good picture. There's no need to totally get rid of it just because someone else is standing next to her. I'm not sure if we can have to picture of Jessica Fletcher instead of this one? Eagle Owl 19:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * We should in no case have a fair-use image when there's a free image available. Whoever keeps adding the screen capture, please stop. &mdash; Chowbok  ☠  16:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Eagle Owl 16:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Career milestone
I wonder if it's worth mentioning that Lansbury is one of the few actors from the Golden Age of Hollywood (defined as films made prior to the end of World War II) who is still active as an actor and performer? Since her career started opposite Ingrid Bergman in 1944's Gaslight, I think this is worth noting. (The only other Golden Age actor who to my knowledge is still considered active is Mickey Rooney). 23skidoo 15:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

First marriage
According to Balancing Act, the Authorized Biography of Angela Lansbury by Martin Gottfried, Lansbury's first husband was homosexual, not bisexual. SFTVLGUY2 13:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Beauty and the Beast
I was just wondering why she didn't take the role of Mrs. Potts in the Broadway adaptation since she played the role in the movie. Was she not offered the role? Was she not interested? Just curious. Sailorknightwing (talk) 04:33, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lansbury was involved with the final seasons of Murder, She Wrote during the early years of the show's Broadway run. 74.14.117.21 (talk) 00:30, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

SMASH ADVERT
I would love this to be true but there does not seem to be much in the the way of corroborating evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.240.122 (talk) 14:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Missing Film
Where is - Mrs Harris goes to Paris - a really great film where Angela starred with Omar Sharif. Probably my favourite thing she's done and I looked for it and cannot see it. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.137.10.202 (talk) 22:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Honorary Chairman of American Theatre Wing
I added this honor (@ 7:16am (EST) on June 14, 2010), given at the Tony Awards ceremony on June 13, 2010, as the very last item under subhead "Honorary recognition", Heading "Honors and awards". I used as a reference the playbill.com article dated June 13, 2010 (well, anyone can see the complete reference in the article). I think it probably is fine where it is right now, unless anyone can think of a more elegant placement (without, as another editor said, puffery) go ahead; but, it is referenced.JeanColumbia (talk) 16:13, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, what I removed, which needed a reliable source and my suggestion to remove the puffery, was regarding the edit after yours, here. The puffery in that edit was "The five-time Tony Award-winning actress accepted the position from the stage of Radio City Music Hall." Your edit wasn't touched. Wildhartlivie (talk) 10:07, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No offense, all I wanted to do was to point out that the Honorary Chair bit is in the article (and referenced). I know that you did not remove my entry. I am agreeing with your action, in case it is not sparkingly clear! And many many thanks for keeping this article up-to-standard. JeanColumbia (talk) 10:37, 15 June 2010 (UTC) (To add: I hope no one has been offended by my comments, they were made in good faith just to very simply, with no malice, note that the item is in the article. And now I shall retire from the article and let others who are more articulate watch over it.)JeanColumbia (talk) 10:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No offense taken. Just wanted to be clear to what I was referring. Thanks so much. Wildhartlivie (talk) 12:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Second Marriage
Her second marriage lasted 53 years, that marriage began in August of 1949 until her husband's death in January of 2003. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.34.211 (talk) 21:15, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Ally Sheedy
She is no longer related to Ally Sheedy because she was not a relative by blood as she is the ex-wife of her nephew David Lansbury. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.34.211 (talk) 21:17, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't know where to put this......her nephew, David Lansbury MAY be named after Angela's uncle. While my aunt, uncle, and oldest cousin were living in Seattle, Washington, in the 1950's/60's/70's, they attended a Baptist church in West Seattle, where my aunt sang in the choir. Per my aunt, their choir director was David Lansbury - Angela Lansbury's uncle. I was a child while my parents and I also lived in West Seattle, and also attended the same church. I was not familiar with the choir director - but what my aunt told us could very well be possible because David Lansbury (who by then was a white-haired man) DID have the family trait of the facial jowels (that Angela has somewhat) I DO remember that.

Gail Noon, San Pedro, CA, 03/26/2013 (69.224.47.158 (talk) 21:26, 26 March 2013 (UTC))

Typo present
Opening paragraphs state that Angela was born both in 1925 and 1940. Thought I'd point that out.

Not a Dame yet
Even though the Foreign Secretary has put her name forth for a damehood (if that's the word I want), Ms Landsbury won't BE a dame until Queen Elizabeth (or her representative) makes her one at an investiture ceremony later in the year. The article, as of this writing, is inaccurate. 86.172.46.72 (talk) 09:58, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Whilst this is technically correct convention is that you may use the title after the honors list has been made public. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.185.216.41 (talk) 19:34, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It should only go into the article after she has been honored, not before. People are edit-warring over this...--Somchai Sun (talk) 22:18, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a convention at Wikipedia that we put the honour at the time it's announced. No other page has suffered from this, and there's no reason to change that doktorb wordsdeeds 10:28, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * It's not even a Wikipedia convention. It's been approved by the highest authority (guess who) that a person may call themselves Sir or Dame from the moment of the public announcement.  Not all such people are personally invested.  Some die before even getting to that stage, but that doesn't mean they were never technically a knight or a dame.  Some have even died before the public announcement but after formal approval was given - such as Sir Henry Cotton (golfer).  Angela Lansbury is a Dame from 31 December 2013, the date her award was publicly announced.


 * This convention does not apply to new non-hereditary peers, because their peerages have to be created by letters patent and they cannot assume the title before that. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  10:42, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Cheers Jack. doktorb wordsdeeds 11:35, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Whoever wrote the paragraph that begins, "It's not even a Wikipedia convention", needs to cite his highest authority (and not make us guess). And thanks, Jack, for the information about non-hereditary peers, but, as I'm sure you know, knights and dames don't fall in that category. (just didn't want anybody thinking that that's what you meant). 86.172.46.72 (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I am "whoever" (it was a 2-para post).
 * Now, you asked for a cite. I'm sure I've seen this in a Royal website or document, but can't locate it at present.  The best I can do so far is Debretts: The recipient is allowed to use his title and to attach the appropriate letters for Knights of Orders of Chivalry after his name from the date of the announcement in the London Gazette. He does not have to wait for the accolade to be officially conferred upon him.
 * There's something similar at the Churchill Society: Knights and Dames may adopt the prefix 'Sir' or 'Dame' from the date of the official announcement of the honour.
 * Cheers. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  18:58, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh good grief, not this old chestnut again. How many times does this have to come up? Take it from those who have actually studied the subject in great detail (thank you for the citation Jack) that the title and postnoms may be and are used from the date of gazette, not just from the date of investiture. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Theatre
It was originally stated on Miss Lansbury's Wikipedia page that her Broadway engagement in A Taste of Honey lasted from October 1960 to September 1961. Miss Lansbury actually left the cast in May 1961 and was replaced by Hermione Baddeley. I have corrected this.

It was also stated that Miss Lansbury's National Theatre engagement in Hamlet (1975-76) took place at both the Old Vic and the Lyttleton Theatres in London. Miss Lansbury actually only played Gertrude for the Old Vic run (December 1975 - March 1976). She was succeeded by Barbara Jefford for the Lyttelton run (March - September 1976). I have corrected this also.

Thank you. Ccmcr1 (talk) 15:28, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well done! Thanks...Flami72 (talk) 16:51, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The reference for Taste of Honey clearly shows that she left in May 1961. The information for Hamlet probably comes from here:"Gertrude, Hamlet, National Theatre Company, Old Vic Theatre, London, 1975, then Lyttleton Theatre, London, 1976", which as you state is incorrect. I'll be looking for another reference for Hamlet.Flami72 (talk) 16:55, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I added 2 references that show, as "Ccmcr1" noted, that Lansbury did not play Gertrude in Hamlet at the Lyttleton when it transferred. Thanks again!Flami72 (talk) 18:55, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello, shouldn't her Grammy award wins for the theatre also be included in a section under awards? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.220.230.224 (talk) 23:04, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Irish citizenship
According to this article she has Irish citizenship and consequently required special permission from the Irish government to receive a UK honour. MRSC (talk) 21:04, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * As she was born in England (to a British father and Irish mother), she is a British citizen and needs nobody's permission to accept a British honour. Probably just a courtesy from the British government if she does indeed hold joint citizenship, but she certainly doesn't legally need Irish permission. -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:16, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * She became an Irish citizen recently, according to this article. The Irish constitution does not allow its citizens to recieve "title of nobility or of honour" without permission of the Irish government. MRSC (talk) 20:53, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Film section
The film section seems too short and does not discuss some of her interesting film roles. I don't think the listing of Filmography at the bottom is adequate to give the reader an understanding of her film roles. Some information was recently deleted from this section that seemed notable to me. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I know Angela Lansbury played the part of a maid in "The Railway Children" (earlier version). This is not listed. Susan Henry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.54.88.213 (talk) 18:56, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Place of Birth
The article states that she was born in Regents Park? The only other "Regents Parks" she could have been born in is Regent's Park Estate which to the best of my knowledge wasn't even built when she was born, or Regent's Park Barracks. I have always been led to believe that she was born in Poplar. Is this "Regents Park" an "Official Biog. Place of Birth" maybe? Cheers, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 19:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Tower Hamlets website confirms her place of birth as Poplar. I have ammended the article. Cheers, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 23:29, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Angela Lansbury confirms she was born in the Regents Park area of London in an interview on the Archive of American television. |1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.212.24 (talk) 00:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sure she says that, but the info on Tower Hamlets site comes from the Registrar of Births Deaths and Marriages, it is impossible for them to be incorrect.&#39;Arry Boy (talk) 07:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Impossible for them to be incorrect? Wow! That's some claim. --Blake the bookbinder (talk) 00:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Her authorised biography, Balancing Act, says Hamilton Terrace, Regent's Park, which probably means Hamilton Terrace in the area now better know as St John's Wood.--Lang rabbie 22:59, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Interview with Mark Lawson, 'Front Row', BBC Radio 4, 3 Feb 2014; "I want to make one thing clear: I was not born in Poplar, that's not true, I was born in Regent's Park, so I wasn't born in the East End, I wish I could say I had been. Certainly my antecedents were: my grandfather, my father." (mins 3-4). Public records are not acceptable for use re WP:BLP. Span (talk) 03:01, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Personal Life
Under the personal life section it states "In the latter part of the 1960s, both Anthony and Deirdre became involved in the growing counterculture movement, becoming recreational drug users. Deirdre developed an acquaintance with the Manson family, while Thomas became addicted to cocaine and heroin, giving it up in 1971.[147]" Not clear who Thomas is or why he is mentioned. Magdela (talk) 17:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I am deathly tired of the 'blame the mother' motif. By writing that while Angela Lansbury often said she believed in putting her children first but often left them for long periods of time while working elsewhere and immediately following it with their drug and 'Manson Family' problems the implication is clear. Where was their father during this time?  What about the effects of their peer influences near the Hollywood scene?  What else was going on?  Might the order of writing be a little less obvious?  In a way such not-so-subtle implications are worse than liable as they can pass just under the critical level of psyche while muddying a repution on the subliminal level.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:7711:1110:9076:7B91:A54C:F36D (talk) 06:11, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Career
I'm quite sorry, but I had to replace the statement in the opening paragraph about Lansbury being most noted for "Murder She Wrote." That was but one blip on her career page! Children of the sixties and seventies would most definitely disagree with that too - "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" is, in my opinion, still a cult favourite. I felt that it was more flattering to point out her long and varied career than to focus in on such a small part of her resume. Besides, it is a running joke (though not warranted) that "Murder She Wrote" was a show for senior citizens to watch. Her performance in "Nanny McPhee," while small, was certainly worthy of an oscar nomination! She was incredible and it was great to see her on screen again. Dmodlin71 06:44, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

She has since enjoyed a long and varied career, mainly as a film actress, appearing in everything from Samson and Delilah (1949) to Disney's Bedknobs and Broomsticks (1971).

Given that Lansbury has enjoyed such great success on the Broadway stage as well as in the TV series Murder, She Wrote, it seems a mistake to use the limiting phrase "mainly as a film actress." Also, she did not appear in everything from Samson and Delilah (1949) to Bedknobs and Broomsticks (1971). ForDorothy 19:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

In the listings of Angela Lansbury's TV appearances, it mentions a guest spot on (I think) Law and Order. I don't remember the date of the episode, but there was a crossover between Jessica Fletcher and Magnum P.I. If anyone is able to track it down (I will attempt to, but I have limited internet access), it should be worthy of mention.

>>Done--I added her appearance on Magnum, P.I. as Jessica Fletcher, which was on November 19, 1986. JeanColumbia 12:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Um ...shouldn’t Murder, She Wrote be in her Work section somewhere? Most people remember her for it. Erima (talk) 03:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

The first sentence about Angela says,"Angela Brigid Lansbury, CBE (born 16 October 1925) is an English actress and singer whose career has spanned eight decades." That's quite strange. She's currently 84 years old (as of 24 May 2010), and eight decades means 80 years. So did she start working as an actress when she was a baby??? Since she was born in 1925, and her first film was 'Gaslight' in 1944 (Oscar nomination). So shouldn't her career be spanning SIX decades, instead of eight? She's a wonderful actress, no doubt, but don't you think stating that her career spanned EIGHT decades reeks of overzealousness? 59.184.169.154 (talk) 17:18, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


 * My understanding is that "spanning eight decades" does not literally mean 80 years, but rather at some point during each of eight decades, i.e., a minimum of 70 years and change. Lansbury was a performer as young girl. She has performed in a great many venues, besides movies and TV.24.90.126.68 (talk) 18:50, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Worth a shot at GA?
I was impressed by this article, and wonder if any of those who have been responsible for getting it to its present state might consider nominating it for Good Article? Tim riley (talk) 11:32, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow, this article has completely transformed since the last time I looked at it! From a quick scan it certainly looks like a viable GA candidate. Big thanks and congratulations to whoever has improved the article so much (looks like it was primarily ?) -- Loeba (talk) 11:44, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello there, and thank you for your kind words and recognition of my recent work in improving the article. Unfortunately I am confident that in its current state, this article would fail a thorough GA review. There are too many non-referenced statements, and much of the rest of the text relies purely on one of Lansbury biographies. I endeavour to rectify this in the coming months, but only when that was done would I feel comfortable sending this off to a GAR. Best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 16:46, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Several years after the idea was mooted to me, I have nominated this article for GAN. Having incorporated citations from all three Lansbury biographies and ensured that the web links are properly formatted and archived, I am now confident that it would pass such a review with some ease. Midnightblueowl (talk) 15:47, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Number of children
A discrepancy: This article states that Angela had 2 children [no names in the right hand side bar] with Peter Shaw, her second husband. The article on Peter Shaw states that they had 3 children and names them in the right hand side bar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:184:4100:F16C:8011:F3CD:1C16:A454 (talk) 09:01, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Here's my thoughts: David is not Angela's son, but her step-son. David was born prior to Angela's marriage to Peter Shaw. They married in 1949, David was born in 1944. In the article I have referenced, Angela mentions "our children, Anthony and Deidre". Daily Mail article, 7 March 2014.  Here is another article, from the Express, Mar 10, 2014, which states: "The Murder, She Wrote star is mother to Anthony, 62, and Deirdre, 60," Express article  So, to sum up, Angela Lansbury has 2 children, Anthony and Dierdre. She has one step-son, David. Flami72 (talk) 10:42, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Her nationality?
Is she still British? Or naturalised American? APW (talk) 15:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * She is a naturalized American citizen since like 1951, but whether she still is a British citizen or subject, I don't know. Actually she is also entitled to Irish citizenship, should she choose, as her mother was a native of Belfast. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 17:58, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll think you'll find Belfast is part of the United Kingdom, and was even when Lansbury's mother was born. --Qwfp (talk) 19:37, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I think you'll find citizens of Northern Ireland are entitled to claim Irish citizenship as well as that of the UK Vauxhall1964 (talk) 19:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

She would need to be British Citizen or citizen of a commonwealth realm in order to have been made a CBE. Otherwise it would have been an honorary one. I thought she had received a damehood (DBE) a few years ago as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.247.171 (talk) 16:41, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * You thought wrong. --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  13:41, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Why does it state her mothers nationality as Northern Irish? Her mother was born in 1895, 27 years before Northern Ireland was created. 90.208.235.209 (talk) 23:52, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * updated to show as Ulster - province of Ireland that was part of GB at the time. Nasnema   Chat  07:55, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

She holds an Irish passport therefore she is an Irish citizen. When the British government were going to confer a title on her she\British government requested permission, in line with the Irish constitution, from the Irish government to receive the honour. Irish government permission is required for Irish citizens to receive "foreign" "titles of nobility." Ref : http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/irish-cabinet-gave-green-light-to-angela-lansburys-dame-honour-29910013.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinc565 (talk • contribs) 00:48, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Holding an Irish passport/ citizenship doesn’t mean that she’s not a British citizen too; she obviously has dual-nationality. It sounds like that bit of inter-Governmental business was a diplomatic courtesy, rather than a major thing - in fact, in that Irish newspaper article referred to, she self-identifies as English/ British, when she says “It's a lovely thing to be given that nod of approval by your own country”. 31.51.87.236 (talk) 13:12, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm not denying her British citizenship. Au contraire, she is clearly a citizen of Britain, Ireland and the USA. British citizen by birth, Irish citizen by decent and a US citizen by naturalization. As she actively applied for an Irish passport she clearly considers herself an Irish citizen (in as much as she is a naturalized US citizen by applying for it.) Her "main nationality" is British. If she is to be described as British-American she could also be described as British\Irish or Anglo\Irish as she is just as much British\Irish ( as she said herself "Don’t forget to mention, too, that I’m proud of my Irish citizenship.” https://www.irelandsown.ie/2015/10/09/angela-lansbury-at-home-in-cork/) as she is British\American. In aggregate she is Anglo-Irish American. The last is a bit of a mouthful so perhaps it's better to refer to her as British in the intro and note her other nationalities later in the article.

I can see that the opening paragraph has been altered again without making a note on this page. I'm going to correct it. Please respond here if you disagree instead of arbitrarily changing it.

beauty beast anniversary
with beauty beast anniversary today/yesterday, angela is here doing the famous song from that movie and well remembered for her role ... not mentioned in the article anywhere see abc news and this ref   https://www.facebook.com/emmawatson/videos/10153993832272061/ 63.143.236.113 (talk) 10:56, 16 October 2016 (UTC) ia the don j heile Selassie sr 109 ****

Birth place clarification in Lansbury's words
Interview with Mark Lawson, 'Front Row', BBC Radio 4, 3 Feb 2014; "I want to make one thing clear: I was not born in Poplar, that's not true, I was born in Regent's Park, so I wasn't born in the East End, I wish I could say I had been. Certainly my antecedents were: my grandfather, my father." (mins 3-4). Public records (birth certs etc) are not acceptable for use re WP:BLP. Span (talk) 03:01, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Her birth is registered in St. Pancras district so that would tie in with a Regent's Park birth. Vladeraz (talk) 20:55, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * She can be seen reiterating this fact in a BFI interview here: http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/video/angela-lansbury-discusses-her-life-work 31.51.87.236 (talk) 13:17, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I doubt she was born in Regent's Park. This is a park, and not a named area of London. It would have to be one of St John's Wood, Marylebone, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.33.144.171 (talk) 11:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)