Talk:Anglo-Chinese School (Independent)

Cleanup request
Added top boy's school consistency and awards part in the introduction. It is vital to express such information because it gives people the first impression of the schools, similar to that of RI or RGS. And yes, this article needs severe cleanup.

This entire article is in a terrible state. It is incoherent, messy and totally disinformative. Anyone wants to clean it up properly? The Fascist 14:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, there seems to be a lot of propaganda inside. --T e rrancommand e r 17:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

CCA Lists updated -- FreezinD3v!L 03:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Propaganda is intrinsic to ACS(I) - this from an old boy ;)


 * I've more or less toned down the bias in the article. Is it acceptable now? Ariedartin JECJY Talk 12:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Needs to be cleaned up and all the ACSI propoganda to be gone for good. --Ter e nce Ong (T 13:06, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Right'o. After my common tests, sure. :) Ariedartin JECJY Talk 13:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, the clean-up has made the article (more) disjointed, (more) unreadable and totally disgusting. Readibility is more important than the presence of the "propaganda" that we worry so much about. The Fascist 09:18, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your most frank opinion. Unfortunately, your opinion does not run along Wikipedia policies of WP:NPOV. Readability plays second fiddle to the neutral and informative nature of a true encyclopedia. But of course, even short articles can be quite readable, like Squier Stratocaster, so I contend that point as well. Ariedartin JECJY Talk 12:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * How can you get information if you aren't able to read it?The Fascist 13:16, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I already told you: the information is readable. I acknowledge there are deficiencies in content like architecture and systems, but that does not compromise the readability of it. Furthermore, this is an encyclopedia, not a advertising agency. Please read the policies of Wikipedia before you make any further comment. Ariedartin JECJY Talk 04:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Cleaned up spelling mistakes, made some dividers in "achivements". Dga471 08:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC) Deleted some unappropriate, boasty bits in article - this article is overloaded with achievements! Take a look at, for example the Raffles Institution article, it has got much more information about the school itself! Dga471 09:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

The article is still too loosely structured and badly organised. Perhaps a structure similar to that used by other schools might be more useful. Brythain (talk) 05:51, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Any GA/FAs? Chensiyuan (talk) 06:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. The problem is that I am writing academic publications on this topic, so I have to be a less active here. Minor fact checking and amendment is what I will do, but I am recusing myself for now from major activity. However, if you want some material you can contact me. I am reasonably easy to find. Brythain (talk) 13:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

This article is quite bias and misleading. I think ACS(I) is definitely a good school but really not a top school. Bearing in mind the consistent ranking of ACS (I), it is between 7-10. The top few secondary schools or (integrated programs now) based on the last ranking done has been RI, RGS, Hwa Chong, Nanyang, Dunman High, River Valley High and St Nicholas in respective order. That being said,i clarified it to be top 10 school, which is a more accurate portrayal than a top school (which misled people to think it is along the ranks of RI, RGS, HC, Nanyang). I think this amendment is especially important since there will be many people researching these education institutions and misrepresentation should be avoided. It is better with more detailed information rather than a one sided narration. (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janice.guai (talk • contribs) 05:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ACS(I) can be considered a top school based on the rankings you cite. The last academic ranking based on O-Level results was in 2005 (for the 2004 examinations) simply because ACS(I) fielded a reduced cohort from 2005 onwards due to the through-train programme. In the Straits Times of 27 Sep 2004, Sandra Davie reported over several pages on how a new ranking system had been implemented. Part of that ranking system was school awards, and by that criterion, ACS(I), RI and RVHS were the only school that year to have won ALL the awards available.Brythain (talk) 02:55, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Pictures
in bad need of pictures is this page! Chensiyuan 12:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * anyone's got the shot of the (iconic IMO) slope leading up to the clock tower? Chensiyuan 06:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I do have in my computer, I have some pics taken when assembling there for the Methodist Walk. Just too lazy to sort them out, cos I took a lot. XD Terence 06:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Aww come on, fish it out for the greater good! lol Chensiyuan 14:05, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Or if you need some other impetus, consider Raffles Institution who's got a ton of pics! Chensiyuan 13:26, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay there're some on commons but I've also added a couple here. Anyone's got a couple on the inside of the original compound? Chensiyuan 05:11, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Sports
something needs to be said of the swimming and badminton streaks. water polo was strong too, and track/squash/tennis in flashes. anyone got the details? archives? Chensiyuan 12:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * on second thoughts maybe championships won pre-1986 will not be considered ACS (I) achievements... Chensiyuan 12:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay made a list to be filled/expanded. Where possible source(s) would be fantastic. Chensiyuan 12:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Academic
not much info in this area at all, apart from the IP program. Chensiyuan 12:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Uniform
Should be a scetion on this especially the IB uniform —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.48.73.89 (talk) 21:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

NPOV?
I think the article isn't very neutral, words like "spectacularly well" etc... needs to be cleaned up especially since most of the article is devoted to listing down the achievements of this school Limecock (talk) 14:41, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You need more specific examples other than mere abstract thoughts (i.e. your first point). Otherwise, the concerns (if any) cannot be properly addressed. As for your second point, the logic is not apparent. Chensiyuan (talk) 15:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

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Aims, characteristics and reputation
I have moved the following chunk out of the article and temporarily to here, because it reads like an essay, is uncyclopaedic, and contains no sources whatsoever. It will need to vanish altogether unless somebody rewrites the factual parts of it in an appropriate style, deletes the opinions, and provides reliable sources:

The school's stated mission is to be a world-class institution in nurturing the holistic development of their students, and to have every student be ‘A Scholar, an Officer and a Gentleman’. This is reflected in the school motto, ‘The Best Is Yet To Be’. The phrase is taken from the first line of the Robert Browning poem, Rabbi ben Ezra (1864), ‘Grow old along with me! / The best is yet to be...’, and is supposed to encourage students to greater heights by reminding them that their best achievements are yet to come. The so-called ‘ACS spirit’ is particularly strong because of close ties with alumni, who frequently donate funds to the school and send their children to be educated there, similar to the public school tradition in England. Students who attend the primary or secondary schools (including affiliated schools) are usually given priority when awarded places in the next higher institution. Although morally conservative due to its religious roots, the school has a reputation for producing students who are, if not brighter, then possessing sharp and inquisitive minds. The literary, debating and drama societies are particularly well-supported. ACS students also have a reputation for possessing a quirky sense of humour, with pranks being a long-established part of the school history. ACS is considered one of the more prestigious schools in Singapore. This is because of its long history and also because many of its graduates have gone on to be successful in business as well as professional fields such as law and medicine. Despite occasional lapses in academic standards over the years, the perception that ACS students are more confident and outspoken than students from other schools continues to persist. The school's students have also been accused of being arrogant and snobbish, and ACS itself has often been charged as being a school only for children of the rich and elite. In the 1970s, there was a minor flap in the local press about ACS students flaunting their wealth to other less privileged students and the world at large, and the term ‘snob’ began being applied to them. As a result, the school initiated strict policies on how much money a student was allowed to bring to school, and even what kinds of watches or shoes would be permitted as part of the school attire. The dress code has been relaxed slightly over the years, but the myth of the rich and élitist ACS student still survives to a degree, despite the fact that students from all income levels were and continue to be admitted to the school. Admittedly, the presence of the Independent School, with its high school fees and free-ranging curriculum, has not helped to dispel this idea. Curiously, other schools in Singapore, even Independent ones, do not suffer from the same reputation. The social history of the school in its Singaporean context provides a clue: at the very beginning ACS was set up by missionaries who taught with the intention of converting the locals; it was frequently attended by the children of the mercantile and social élite who saw an English education as a path to greater success. This dichotomy between material success and spiritual success has become entrenched. It is said (partly in jest) that while the graduates of other top schools might rule Singapore, ACSians own Singapore.

So much stuff in this article written by someone with next to no wiki experience
Cleaning up! &theta;v&xi;r    mag&xi;   contribs 02:08, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * AND I AM DONE! Man this article had the descriptions of IB, IP, MPE, GEP, and etc and so much junk... Completely reorganized everything to resemble other secondary schools' pages. Not sure where the following picture should fit into the article, perhaps someone should expand the Campus section, include the IP block and then put it in. &theta;v&xi;r     mag&xi;   contribs 02:53, 25 May 2012 (UTC)



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