Talk:Anglo-Irish big house

This needs to go
"The Anglo-Irish occupied a social space where they were in Ireland yet not fully Irish, and English in manner and origin yet far removed from life in England."

This is not entirely accurate. The Anglo-Irish as a social class consisted of some who were English in origin, some who were Irish in origin, and many who were mixed Irish-English. As a matter of fact, one of the more palatial country houses of the Penal Era was the Castletown House, built for the Connolly family, who did indeed have an Irish origin.

There's more problematic wording in this article, in particular the statement about "native" Roman Catholics. Anyone versed in Irish history knows it is nonsensical to talk about "natives" in Ireland. And to the editors who write this stuff -- to whom are you referring? The Gaels? The Norse? The Normans? All of these groups, along with the English, Scots and Welsh (who also mixed with the Norse and Normans), had a long history of populating Ireland and intermixing with its inhabitants, insofar that it would be completely arbitrary to select a cut-off period of, say, 100, 300, 500, or 1,000 years of settlement to define just who these Irish "natives" are. This period is best understood in terms of religion and social class: the small Protestant elite, and the largely Roman Catholic underclass. Statements about "natives" and "origins" are unnecessary and confusing.Jonathan f1 (talk) 02:15, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Agree. WatermillockCommon (talk) 08:29, 25 April 2020 (UTC)