Talk:Ankh-Morpork

Ankh-Morpork Topographic Map
I'd like to try and come up with a Topographic_map of Ankh-Morpork. I've read most of the novels over the last 18 years and do remember Terry talking about parts that are below the level of the river, etc, etc. We know Nap Hill is a hill but how high is it? If you would like to help then please include the book title, page number and extract. --Mikecook 20:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Terry Pratchett and Stephen Briggs have already published one, called The Streets of Ankh-Morpork. It was basically done in the same way as you describe - putting together all the different bits of information from the books. -=# Amos E Wolfe talk #=- 07:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

misc
I'll check, but I think the stuff about Nobby Nobbs being related to royalty was a fiction invented by Dragon King at Arms. DJ Clayworth 20:58, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)


 * There's a throwaway line near the end of the book hinting that there may have been more truth to the fiction than even Dragon King of Arms realised. &mdash;Paul A 00:59, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)

great! --Yak 11:20, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)

Is there any actual fact to connect Carrot with the Royal familiy, except very broad hints? I liked the old Version better. --Yak 11:35, Apr 2, 2004 (UTC)


 * The end of Men at Arms seems pretty clear, but no, there's no actual evidence, and Carrot will do everything in his power to ensure it stays that way. Daibhid C

What about at the end of Jingo when Lord V says he was reminded about the title of duke and he is constantly glancing at Carrot? That indicates that at least Lord V belives Carrot is the rightful king, and given Lord V's character (very logical and requiring facts rather than emotions (as mentioned again in Jingo) this would seem to be a very pointed hint. Also Edward in men at Arms is said to be "an expert on Ank Morpork Royalty) belives that he is and is able to connect the ring and the royal family and the place where Carrot was found.

Where does the figure of AM proper being one mile in diameter come from? That sounds awfully tiny for the Disc's largest city, and I distinctly recall a passage in ''Gaurds! Guards!'' in which Colon describes it as being eight miles wide... 20:55, 30 September 2005 (UTC)


 * In a thread on alt.fan.pratchett, Terry said, "The centre shown in the Mappe is about a mile across". It's the Disc's largest city because there's so much of it outside the city walls, which isn't "AM proper" in that sense. (It's kind of like the difference between London and the City of London.) --Daibhid C 16:47 5 Nov 2005 (UTC)

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The Big Oyster?
When has A-M ever been called the Big Oyster? I recall "pearl of cities" in TLF, but that's as close as it gets. Daibhid C 14:19 19 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Yep, it's been that said that comparing Ankh-Morpork to the diseased secretions of a dying Mollusc is very apt! The Kinslayer 14:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

fiction tag
What's the deal with this Wincanton business? I mean... what... what's the deal? Melchoir 07:44, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Link to BBC articles added. They explain it. Fishies Plaice 23:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

The fiction tag is bogus. The article makes it clear throughout that the city is part of a series of stories. Who could read that and think otherwise? I'm going to remove the tag.--Eric TF Bat 00:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Coat of Arms
The plural of hippopotamus is hippopotami. 195.190.143.254 (talk) 11:04, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Much better coat of arms featured on inside cover of hardback "Going Postal" on postage stamps.


 * The coat of arms on the page currently is shamefull. Here is a better picture: http://disquemonde.free.fr/discw

This is taken from the cover of "The Streets of Ankh Morpork", but I'm not sure how to copyright it or post it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.230.126 (talk) 19:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Where did all these hideous MS Paint things come from? They seem to be all over the Wiki articles for Discworld, but they make it look like it's made by ten year olds. There are great coats of arms for lots of stuff in the street map (As well as the city it has the Watch, the Vetinari family, the Rankin family, the University, and coats for the guilds of assassins, thieves, alchemists, plumbers and dunnykindivers fools and merchants). If we can't get these because of copyright, I think it'd be better just to take down the current ones. Darien Shields (talk) 18:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Here's a very nice one (more accurate, note the fields of 1,2, and 3rd quarter, the scarps (missing from this version, correct ankh color as well as the crown and chain of the supporters (about the only thing wrong with it is the missing shield of the Unseen University) Presumably it's copyable, as required by that wiki, but without an explicit notice, I am not sure. --gejyspa (talk) 13:02, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Mended Drum
"Curiously, this romantic disreputable place is what Twoflower thought naively in Colour of Magic." - this sentence looks like it's trying to go somewhere but got lost. I have no idea what it is trying to lead to so I'll leave it alone and bring it to other people's attention.

The Thames and The Ankh
Hi all, Seeing as virtually every representation of the city clearly shows the river with an identical 'Thames Meander' (thoses who know the Eastenders opening credits will know what I mean!), I added this little fact into the opening paragraph of 'The River Ankh', which also draws comparisons to the Thames. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.111.44 (talk) 21:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Origin of the name?
Kar98 (talk) 15:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Currency size?
The article states that the AM$ coin is "sequin (coin) sized" and links to the entry on the coin of that name. However, that entry gives no information on the dimensions of the coin, and the image is a magnification without scale. I haven't been able to find any information on the size of a sequin coin, so, as it stands, the information given is useless, if interesting. Can anyone please determine either the size of the sequin, or (probably better) a more useful comparison, and amend appropriately? Kay Dekker (talk) 18:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Dwarf Population
I'm fairly sure that the dwarf population mentioned here doesn't refer to the Deep Downers mentioned in Thud! but I can't find anything to back this up. 92.29.178.30 (talk) 22:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Google Earth
Is there any reason why I just found the Ankh-Morpork article linked to a barge on Nordereiland in Rotterdam on google earth, surely if any round world place deserves the article it is wincanton. is this something I'm missing in the article or is it something that google hae done themselves. Waacstats (talk) 00:01, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Size
1.6km is the current size, which is a tiny bit under a mile, in the article. It is stated in Guards! Guards! to be 8 miles across, however. Is the 1.6km stated by Pratchett at a more recent time ...? I'm not going to change it, because although it is uncited as far as I'm aware it doesn't need to be cited if it comes from the work - as the novel is the citation, right? And it must have come from somewhere, so I won't touch it, but I thought I'd say here that the city is definately stated as 8 miles in Guards! Guards! 94.175.97.87 (talk)Lord loss210 —Preceding undated comment added 10:51, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

The 1 mile measure is actually absurd. By that scaling, measuring using the official map, the entire opera house is about the size it's own stage and the patricians palace about the size of a large apartment... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.109.65.28 (talk) 22:48, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Ankhapur
Ankhapur first appears in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, published in 1987. Ankh-Morpork first appears in The Colour of Magic, published in 1983. So it was not influenced by it at all. Fritz Leiber's Lankhmar appears to be a much more prevailing influence.Werthead (talk) 23:53, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Minas Tirith reference
I might point out that Minas Tirith is itself a reference to Byzantium, and that Pratchett may have actually been hinting to the historical Western perspective on the Byzantine Empire, who for 1000 years remained the continuation of the Roman Empire after the "Fall of Rome", but whose inhabitants were seen and portrayed by Westerners as decadent, bad smelling, and corrupt. In some ways, Ankh-Morpork parodies the Great City of Constantinople.

Ambarenya13 (talk) 19:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Mortal coil
with whose "assistance" they threw off their respective mortal coils.

The mortal coil is here, this place, the earth, the domain of the living. It's a location, not a characteristic of a living being. Assassins don't throw off your mortal coil, they throw you off the mortal coil.

Guilds and Leadership
Since the Guilds are described as institutions of great civic importance to Ankh-Morpork, and as the Assassins' Guild is mentioned, should not other Guilds such as those of the Thieves, the Beggars and the 'Seamstresses' be also mentioned?

Also, should there not be a greater discussion of the governmental structure of Ankh-Morpork? Much of the nature of the Patriciate tyranny is idiosyncratic of Lord Vetinari -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:A401:FA00:B400:119C:BF76:75AB (talk • contribs) 20:22, 26 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Tell you what... If you find a WP:SECONDARY source discussing this stuff, you can summarize it for the Wikipedia readers. Otherwise no. Binksternet (talk) 21:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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