Talk:Ann Hopkins

Notability?
Is Ann notable apart from her involvement in the case, and her subsequent talks and books about the case? I see information about her personal life, but those things don't make her notable... --MarkTraceur (talk) 22:11, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Wikipedia's notability guidelines state that "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." I've listed at least half a dozen reliable, independent sources that provided significant coverage of the subject. (One source is a journal publication based on her own book, so feel free to discount that one as neutral if you prefer, although it was presumably vetted by the journal's editorial board.) I could have easily provided a dozen more reliable third-party sources, but felt it unnecessary, considering the topic matter and the strength of the sources. If you think additional sources would be helpful, please let me know.


 * There is discussion on the biographies of living persons page about what to do for people who are notable for one event, as is the case here. I draw your attention to the example given of John Hinkley, Jr., whose article is listed as warranted even though he is known for only one event, the attempted assassination of President Reagan. The reasons given for this exception are that "the single event he was associated with ... was significant and his role was both substantial and well documented." In the case of Ann Hopkins, the event she was associated was also significant — it set an important precedent in U.S. case law that has been drawn upon and discussed many times over in the decades since — and her role was also both substantial (clearly, if it weren't for her the case wouldn't have happened) and well documented (in outlets from The New York Times, TIME magazine, the Chicago Tribune, any number of law publications, and, just this year, PBS, which included her in a highly-watched documentary featuring some of the most important women in the history of business in the United States). I didn't think it made sense to expand on Hopkins' background so much on Price Waterhouse v. Hopkins, which rightly focuses on the law rather than the person, but I do believe the addition information about her early career and trajectory after the case ended provides important context for understanding her role in history. Thus, I felt a standalone article about Hopkins was warranted by Wikipedia guidelines. Girona7 (talk) 00:54, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

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