Talk:Ann Russell Miller

AFD-worthy?
This article is largely plagiarized from the S.F. Gate obituary. Activist (talk) 11:25, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


 * , you’re gonna have to be much more specific when making unfounded accusations of plagiarism. And if you think it merits an afd, nominate it don’t just vaguely threaten it. Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 11:35, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Eddie891 Actually, I've never done this before, so wasn't sure how to proceed. It was baldfaced plagiarism from the start and please don't accuse me of making "unfounded allegations." What does this edit you used when creating the article sound like?: "Miller’s 10 children — in birth order, Donna, Douglas, Richard, Janet, Marian, Leslie, Donald, David, Mark and Elena" You removed that after I left the note on this page. I had followed what I gather is the proper procedure seconds before your response, using this template.Ann Russell Miller ([ history] · [ last edit] · rewrite) I'm surprised I'm the first editor to do so. I'll also nominate it for an AFD. Activist (talk) 11:50, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I removed overquoting that was added by other editors upon your flagging it and have now done the same to the list of children-- again not added by me, as is easily identifiable from the page history-- which I would have removed anyways as BLP protecting the children. Otherwise, I don't see copyvvio. Earwigs only flags directly attributed quotes. Articles are built upon sources, and there are only so many ways to say the same thing. I mentioned unfounded accusations because I'm genuinely curious to hear what makes this article "obviously" a copyvio, because I don't see it. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Talk Well, I see what happened. I had just read the SFGate story and another one on the page I just got from that paper about the Pfeiffer trail reopening. Then I wondered if Miller had an article so put her husband's name into the WP browser. That brought up her article. The start of the bio had the "birth order" paste. I thought, "Wait a minute, I just read that." I noticed the "soul" quote and the "800 attendees" and at that point just assumed that much of the rest of it was cut and pasted. I looked to see if had just a single author and noticed that you'd started it with 4,000 characters or so and most other editors did some slight tinkering. So I apologize. I still don't think she qualifies as "notable," but you and I can probably manage to get along better. Activist (talk) 12:28, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * P.S. I won't nominate it for AFD, but don't expect to look at it again. Again, apologies. Activist (talk) 12:32, 16 June 2021 (UTC)