Talk:Anna M. Cienciala

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Professor Cienciala has given permission for her material from this website,, to be reused on Wikipedia under the Creative Commons Attribution/ShareAlike license so long as it is clearly attributed as hers. This means that longer quotations of that text may be used than ordinarily allowed under WP:NFC, but text should not be woven into articles without some indication that it is quoting Professor Cienciala. More information can be obtained about this from OTRS volunteers, who can access the release at 2009070210058941. If extensive quotations of Professor Cienciala's work is utilized in articles, reference to this should be made in edit summary and at talk page, to help guard against other contributors deleting or truncating it according to WP:NFC. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:02, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I see on that webpage that it is licensed under a CC-BY-SA-NC license. I thought that NC is not compatibile with Wikipedia; did the OTRS received an NC-exception in the letter? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:20, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The release we received from her supercedes the license at the website. She specifically agreed to the license, even in commercial products. She is, however, adamant on full attribution. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:39, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Important biographic information missing.
The article states she was born in the German city of Danzig (97% German, with Poles likely being the largest majority). What school did she visit there? What happened to the family when Danzig was reunited with Germany? What happened afterwards? What happened when this area was conquered to the Red Army. I suppose the family didn't stay there, since the rest of the article suggest that she was in America then. --197.228.6.60 (talk) 21:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Is there a source for that? Many people do not share much of their biographical details. Unless she writes about herself, or someone else does that, there will be no answer to that. PS. Sadly, she can no longer does that; on the bright side the Andrzejewski (2000) book may hold the answer. At some point, someone will read it and add this information here. Whether this will happen within 5 or 25 years, now... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  02:42, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Piotrus is quite right. In this case, she was born in 1929, long before the Nazis came to power. The family took the opportunity at an unknown date the 1930s to escape to America. She was a small child at the time, and clearly did not make the decision. Normally that is all the information that is necessary in a biographical article So it is false to say that there is "important information that is missing. This is an encyclopedia, not a full-scale biography. Rjensen (talk) 02:59, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Piotr for the hint on the book. The NSDAP was on the Danzig parliament already in 1929, not sure in what year they became the majority, but it was before 1939. So the question here would be when the Cienciala family left Danzig. After the outbreak of war many Poles left for England (or France) via Romania. The article states that she was educated in Poland in France. Question: What education was that, primary, secondary, tertiary? First concise statement in the article on education is that she received a BA in arts from Liverpool university in 1952. I presume there would somewhere be a public CV, one just needs to find it --41.150.71.154 (talk) 13:31, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

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How come Cienciala rates a Wikipedia article?
She published a couple of books that have citations. Did not do much else. Impact seems low. Why does she rate an article ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoeZ451 (talk • contribs) 11:32, 17 November 2019 (UTC) Sock puppet Icewhiz