Talk:Anna O.

Plagiarized
Much on this page is plagiarized: http://www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/freud.html


 * I removed all of the copyvio material. Thanks. --Fastfission 05:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

This entire article is a copy of the scientific paper "O Anna: being Bertha Pappenheim--historiography and biography" by Robert Kaplan, published at Australas Psychiatry, 2004 Mar;12(1):62-8. Go to PubMed, look for, ask a sample to blackwell-synergy and read part 2 of the paper.

What was her psychological problem?
something is missing here. it doesn't say when or why she was in the sanitarium and skips what her psychological problem was.--68.163.184.57 04:53, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

She was diagnosed by Breuer as hysterical.

The last paragraph of the primary article mistakenly said that it was Freud who diagnosed her though, and modern research has determined it was a wrong diagnosis. She supposedly had epilepsy.

Of course, this so-called research doesn't explain why Anna O's paralysis was cured by Breuer through hypnosis. Nor does it explain how her hydrophobia went away when, under hypnosis, she remembered her disgust when her father's dog drank water from his cup.Snud (talk) 22:53, 4 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The situation in relation to Anna O's contractures (Breuer does not call them paralyses) is quite complex. Some of the contractures disappeared spontaneously at a time when she was recounting fantasy stories in her deepening evening states of absence, which Breuer referred to as "auto-hypnosis" in the published case history. Breuer does not claim any direct relationship between the stories and the remission of symptoms. (Original case notes, A. Hirschmüller, The Life and Work of Josef Breuer [1989], pp. 282-283, 289; Standard Edition, vol. 2, p. 29.) (When Breuer later referred to her evening states of hypnosis he was referring to these states of auto-hypnosis.) It was during one of these states of auto-hypnosis that Anna O. told Breuer that she had seen her companion's dog drinking out of a glass, which was immediately followed by the breaking of a six week period of refusing to drink water. (Hirschmüller, 1989, p. 288.) N.B. It was only after this incident, at a late stage some eighteen months after he started visiting her, that Breuer writes that he himself hypnotized the patient "in the morning" (Standard Edition, vol. 2, p. 36). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esterson (talk • contribs) 09:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Copyright violation
Some of this article appears to have been copied from material by a Richard Webster, whose work on Anna O is available on the web. Also, one sentence that I googled returned Australasian Psychiatry, Vol. 12 Issue 1 Page 62 March 2004 "O Anna: being Bertha Pappenheim − historiography and biography" by Robert Kaplan.

Also, I think this should be about Anna O, not the real woman. It is the case study that is famous, not the person. I therefore stubbed the article to remove any copyrightvios, and moved it to Anna O. SlimVirgin  (talk) (contribs) 02:41, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Title of article
The subject of this article is usually referred to as "Anna O.", with the period after O. On Wikipedia, Anna O. redirects to this article, Anna O (with no period). Shouldn't it be the other way around? Finell (Talk) 23:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Dissociative identity disorder
Anna O. suffered from Dissociative identity disorder. She had two personalities. We should mention that in the article. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC) That is disputable. Mainly she would forget what had happened to her in her "absenses", but her personality was pretty much the same in both her "absent" and normal states.Snud (talk) 23:04, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Disambiguation Link
The disambiguation link simply links back to this page. I don't know where it's supposed to go. Laser Dude (talk) 04:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

This is a laughable treatment of a very important person!
Yeah, something is missing all right. Bertha Pappenheim is not notable merely for what is discussed here. She had a life outside Freud's institute, and she deserves to be known by her real name.

Perhaps I'll get around to doing something about it. As it stands, this article is crap. Kelisi (talk) 09:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't have time to edit this (or Bertha's) page. I've got Melinda Given Guttmann's book: The Enigma of Anna O. In it, and in other sources I've found, Bertha isn't just treated by Breuer - she is credited as co-creating the "talking cure" and "cathartic method" with him. She was not just a passive patient, but an active participant in her own healing process. This feels like a very important piece to capture in here.

It also seems like there should be more information about hysteria - perhaps another link? This was a "female" disease and Freud and Breuer were very significant (especially Freud) because they treated hysterics like people. Freud even noted that part of the cause of hysteria was that (and these are in my words, not his) women were intelligent and repressed - that they unequal status in society and lack of personal power over their lives and life decisions is part of what led to hysteria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EP Fireowl (talk • contribs) 17:35, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

In response to the above comment
I will next put the rest of her impressive biography from the German version into a separate English Wiki article entitled "Bertha Pappenheim." But give me a few days, please, she was very productive. --Remotelysensed (talk) 16:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Can anyone fix the link?
Now that a "Bertha Pappenheim" entry exists in English, the "English" link at the left on the German "Bertha Pappenheim" page should go there, rather than to the English "Anna O." page.

Does anyone out there know how to accomplish that feat? I have interlinked the articles themselves, but couldn't solve the language link-up problem. Thanks in advance from --Remotelysensed (talk) 09:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

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Merge - let's give it another go
I've proposed a merge of Anna O. into Bertha Pappenheim. Please come join the discussion on that article's talk page. --Xurizuri (talk) 05:18, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Due to WP:SILENCE, I have merged the articles. --Xurizuri (talk) 02:53, 21 October 2021 (UTC)