Talk:Annie (musical)

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This site is great —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.80.238.7 (talk) 13:48, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

"Just two cities away from their Broadway debut." Should that be two days? --Sluggoster 05:10, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. The production toured for a while before landing on Broadway. --Paul A 07:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

In the "Movies" section, Was the comment, "Punjab and The Asp are bought back for this film, although the characters are supporting roles" supposed to be for the sequal? AND We need to make album pages for the different soundtrack releases (as a part of the WikiProject Albums) Are theses good titles? : Antmusic 21:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Annie (1977 original Broadway cast)
 * Annie (1982 film soundtrack)
 * Annie (1999 film soundtrack)

I am Annie Schultz but my frenids call me vivienn —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.121.205 (talk) 17:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Pop Culture references to "Tomorrow"
Do we really need a list of every pop culture reference to this song? The song epitomizes the musical and is completely entrenched in pop culture (at least in the US). I have never seen or heard a single line from the musical, and yet I know "Tomorrow" from the pop culture references alone. We're starting to get a pretty ridiculous list of "'Tomorrow' is sung in X-episode of Y-TV show." -- 12.116.162.162 17:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe there should be a seperate article for "Tomorrow"...like Tomorrow (Annie song). It would be a good place to move all the references, and the song is popular enough to have its own wikipedia page. Antmusic 17:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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10 or 11?
An IP made this change, of her age from 11 to 10. Does anyone have a source for the correct age? delldot  talk  15:24, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * She's 11 per mti, the rights holder to the show. Fixing now. -- omtay 38  15:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Recently, changes have been made to the age of Annie, several changing the age to 10. I've changed back to (age) 11, based on this discussion. (See edits on 05-28-08, 14:58, also 05-27-08, 19:36 that changed the age to 10. Also on 05-22-08, 10:36, her age was changed to 12 1/2.). JeanColumbia (talk) 16:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I think maybe it should be noted that sometimes they change the age of the character Annie from eleven to ten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tweedle20 (talk • contribs) 23:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Who is the "they" that makes this age change? What does "sometimes" mean--a school/amateur production? Not to be disparaging, but, in my opinion, the article should stay focused on the original Broadway production and any subsequent professional, notable revivals. Should there be a signficant change (such as Annie's age) in a notable prduction, that could be mentioned. I believe this is consistent with the guidelines in WP:WPMT: "If the show was presented in one form originally and then edited (cut, new numbers added, etc.) for another production, that could be discussed in a section on adaptations or versions. For instance, Chicago originally opened in one version and then, for the more successful revival, changes had been made, and the significant changes should be described." JeanColumbia (talk) 23:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that was harsh. Just saying, JeanColubia, you could of simply said, "No, we probably need to foucs on the Broadway production more." Not trying to be mean, just saying. But anyway. That isn't even what I meant. Tweedle20 (talk) 20:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)Tweedle20

Tommorow
The Sun'll come out Tomorrow Bet your bottom dollar That tomorrow There'll be sun! Just thinkin' about Tomorrow Clears away the cobwebs, And th sorrow 'Til there's none When I'm stuck in a day That,s Gray And lonely I just stick out my chin And grin And say OH! The sun'll come out so tomorrow so you got to hang on till tomorrow Comewhat may TOMORROW TOMORROW I love ya Tomorrow You're always a day AWAY!!!!!!!!1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.203.108.200 (talk) 16:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Plot
Since the old plot was deleted because of copyright violation, I started a new one. I did this one strictly from memory (so as not to be influenced, even unconsciously by anything), so there may be some minor errors. I know it needs filling out, and also could use song placement. JeanColumbia (talk) 20:44, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Character section
The character section added on 03-28-08 was a copyright violation, from: [], with the songs each character sang added. See WP:COPY for Wikipedia copyright policies, which are, briefly: "Do not copy text from other websites without a GFDL-compatible license. It will be deleted."

I also note that "voice parts" were included; should anyone want to add a Character section, please read the discussion of this subject here: [], which indicates a consensus against including voice parts. JeanColumbia (talk) 16:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Original Broadway Cast
I think since people have been searching this article hoping for the Broadwya cast, someone should start like an article called Annie (Original Broadway Cast) Just a suggestion. Tweedle20 (talk) 00:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)Tweedle20

Amateur Annie gets bad review
Shouldn't this Reuters news story be included?--Wetman (talk) 20:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Beanie Baby Island
I have just deleted edits related to a "production" of Annie, and I quote: "Beanie Baby Island will have a production in 2009 with Cheezer as Annie". This needs to carefully sourced, per the usual WP:VERIFY, as it sounds as if it might not meet the notability guidelines (as well as several others) as it stands. (I am, of course, assuming good faith and being WP:CIVIL.) JeanColumbia (talk) 22:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, it's REALLY obvious that there will not be a production of Annie in "Beanie Baby Island"!And with "Cheezer" as Annie. Tweedle20 (talk) 20:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)Tweedle20

Merge proposal
There seems no need for a separate article about one production of the musical, as it is included in "Production history" here, and any artistes who are notable have, or should have, their own articles. PamD (talk) 10:46, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree, the separate article (titled "Annie (Original Broadway cast)") is a list which simply repeats the performer's name and role and has no special informative value. Many of these performers are not-notable (that is, are red-linked). The article "Annie (Original Broadway cast)" should either be merged or deleted. (I shall repeat this opinion on the talk page of the subject article.)JeanColumbia (talk) 11:05, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * To add: I think that the article ("Annie (Original Broadway cast)") does not meet the criteria of WP:STAND, "Lists of people", in that almost all of the performers listed are not notable. JeanColumbia (talk) 11:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Don't merge it. It's a pathetic article. I wrote it and it's pointless and very stupid. Please someone DELETE it. Tweedle20 (talk) 13:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)Tweedle20

Copy Right Violation
The plot material added on September 28, 2009 22:16 is a copy & paste from the MTI site [], which is a copy right violation. I reverted to the last plot write-up. See the "Terms of Use" on the MTI site, which states, in part: "You may not copy, reproduce, transfer, republish, upload, post, transmit, broadcast or distribute Content in any way or in any media now known or hereafter devised except for your personal, noncommercial home use only." See the Wikipedia rules on copy right at WP:COPY. Directly below this edit box the copyright policy is stated: "Please do not copy and paste from copyrighted websites – only public domain resources can be copied without permission". JeanColumbia (talk) 07:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

With the Great Financial Crisis of 2008-onwards this sounds more relevant since the 1970s
I wonder if a big Hollywood production is underway; are there sources supporting it? --212.54.222.41 (talk) 09:13, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Video of the original cast singing 'Tomorrow'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVBe1cU1M3E I wonder if the 'rights' are ok to include it in the article. --Leladax (talk) 17:07, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

2014 National tour
According to this casting notice, ([]) there will be a Non-Equity National Tour, produced by Troika Entertainment. Tour starts in September 23, 2014 in Detroit, MI, Contracted through August 2, 2015. My opinion is that we should wait to include this information in the article until there is a more definite announcement, say a press release (and published in the standard sources such as Playbill, New York Times, one of the other on-line sources) that meets the WP:RS guidelines. (This article, dated June 7, 2013 in Playbill, states that there will be a National Tour in the 2014-15 Season [], but I think this is too vague. Flami72 (talk) 14:27, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

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Plot
Per the musical theatre article structure guidelines, "A two-act musical's synopsis should be between 800 and 1100 words, with leeway for an unusually complicated plot.". The plot added earlier today (May 17, 2018) by an IP added a significant amount of words to the existing plot (I do not have the ability to do a count). Additionally, the existing plot seems (to me) to be complete/suficient. Thus, I have deleted the plot added today because: 1) it made the entire plot section too long as per the guidelines; and 2) it essentially duplicated what was already in the plot section.Flami72 (talk) 14:19, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * For the record, the 1st paragraph of the newly added plot (since deleted) was 98 words. Based on that, the total word count of the newly added plot is in the area of 500 words.Flami72 (talk) 14:28, 17 May 2018 (UTC) (In the existing plot, each act is approx. 592 words; therefore, the existing plot is at the maximum word count per the guidelines.)Flami72 (talk) 14:35, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Edit war
Okay I watch listed this article and I keep seeing tons of bytes being removing and reverted in my watchlist. I think we are gonna need an admin and maybe lock this page to prevent vandalism.CycoMa (talk) 19:22, 15 September 2021 (UTC)