Talk:Anti-Catalan sentiment

Bias
This page is strongly biased by the writer's political orientation. The anti-catalanism is a very serious matter to many people living in and outside Spain and it deserves to be treated from a more impartial perspective.


 * I agree that the article content as such was too biased to the right. However the name anti-catalanism is too biased in favour of catalan nationalism. Anyone who is against positions held by catalanist parties can be unfairly deemed anticatalan according to this definition.

--Burgas00 10:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually I have to disagree with myself there. Anticatalanism is definitely a political reality in Spain.--Burgas00 23:20, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

What's the point
What's the point of creating an article named "anti-catalanism" (and the redirection catalanophobia) and reducing it to anti-catalannationalism? It may be big or small or not event exist but writing an article about hatred towards everything catalan is not pandering to catalan nationalism.

An encyclopedia must deal with facts, and therefore all its entries must be based on objective facts, or on a balanced set of authoritative quotations. I agree that the whole entry should be removed. It amounts to political propaganda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polifemo (talk • contribs) 15:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Ditto to both. added some tags. --MauritiusXXVII  (Aut Doce, Aut Disce, Aut Discede!) 23:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Changes
This article currently doen't respect the neutral point of view policy, lacks verifiability, and it's an original research. And "these policies determine the type and quality of material that is acceptable in Wikipedia articles". Talking plain, this article is a real bullshit. We need delete it or rewrite it. I've erased the discrimination tag (senseless, if we cant verify the content). I'll try to search some reliable sources and rewrite it with a minimums. And we need another one about anti-espanyolisme (two sides of the same coin). --Owdki talk 17:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure how this Talk page works, but this article is clearly a Catalan-separatist propaganda pamphlet unworthy of a Wikipedia page. Delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6080:6505:7B00:48C7:656:8221:1114 (talk) 18:58, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Spanish biased
The Crticism section is the largest of the article, and it only reflects the ideas of C's and UPyD, two small political parties, one of them non-existing in Catalonia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.151.54.254 (talk) 12:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I honestly find this article ridiculous from the academic point of view. No sources, citations. Pure political propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1D50:2:101:911D:67DE:E50F:82CE (talk) 10:16, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Exemplification
I think that with this matter we could use the hundreds of examples given in the social media, like youtube, twitter and others. It may be not nice to show hatred, but if it is in the name of objectivity, we could use it. This reality shouldn't be denied. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.77.230.16 (talk) 07:51, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

--Coronel Fenymore (talk) 20:22, 10 April 2013 (UTC)== Neutrality ==

If you want to be absolutely neutral, do not write any articles.

Lack of Neutrality
I tagged the article as lacking of neutrality for the following reasons:
 * By saying Anti-Catalanism is the collective name given to various historical trends in Spain and in France that have been hostile to Catalan culture and traditions. In more recent times it can also refer to a reaction against Catalan nationalism or Catalan independentism it is taken an opinion as a fact. People against catalan independency or catalan nationalism are considered by this definition as haters of catalan culture, which is not true (for example, think of a catalan person who doesn't want independence). Only accepting the two extremes (independenstism versus anti-catalanism) is a serious lack of neutrality.


 * Also, España 2000 is a political party without any single deputy in the Spanish parliament, thus being a extremely small minority, and it does not belong to Wikipedia as a viewpoint (see WP:WEIGHT). Any reference to their opinions should be eliminated.


 * The Further reading section is completely useless. Free advertising.


 * In the overall, with such lack of good references and lack of (or partially selected) explanation, this article is more a tendentious political/opinion article rather than an encyclopedic article, and it may confuse non-biased people or people who don't know about the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.84.69.83 (talk) 23:33, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Anti-Catalanism ?? Catalanism=Anti-Spanish? simply non-agreed catalanism
almost all people is not nacionalism in Catalonia, but are not España 2000, of course. so funny when in the article try make an artifical relation between racism and anti-catalanism, when the catalanism is based in difference and racism between spaniards and catalonian people. Funny and sad. ALmost all editor of this articles are catalonim-nacionalism friendly. Check profiles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.61.175.207 (talk) 23:29, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Maybe but you cannot make up words like "anti-Spanishphobia" to make a point. If you are going to edit wikipedia, please be serious and attempt neutrality.Asilah1981 (talk) 10:47, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Complex issue
Let's try to keep the article as fair as possible, there are many sides and perspectives to this concept, it would be best for all if we tried to not propagandize and instead focused on actually explaining the concept as a whole. This is an appeal to both sides. Don't delete things you disagree with without a very good reason. And please make sure to source your claims. 79.144.161.85 (talk) 19:59, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Where is the historical context here - it looks like squabbling about current politics. Would be interesting to have a history and causes of anti-Catalanism starting from the 16th century as it does in the Spanish wiki. Is everyone ok if I start translating (on my sandbox) and then post version here for your discussion? Sonrisas1 (talk) 12:16, 24 October 2017 (UTC)