Talk:Anti-Korean sentiment in Japan

the category on "anti-korean racism" violates both WP:UNDUE and WP:SYNTH.
@Mureungdowon


 * "Yoshiaki Yoshida, chairman of DHC Corporation, known as a Japanese cosmetics company, made hateful remarks about Koreans very repeatedly. He accused South Koreans of "チョン" on DHC's official Instagram, the word "チョン" is known as a racist hate word Koreans. On April 9, 2021, he said, "Korean race is easy to recognize because of its characteristic name, protruding jaw shape, narrow mouth, and above all, the back of the head is a cliff"."

Okay, seems like a bit of a stretch to have an entire category for something one guy said.


 * "His hate speech against Koreans is considered similar to the Nazi's anti-Semitism investigation."

obvious editorializing sourced from... a blog.

Tdmurlock (talk) 02:32, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The problem is, Japanese media rarely report on the Japanese people's anti-Korean racism. I will replace it with a better source than Ohmy News within two days. (Ohmy News is not a blog.) / DHC broadcasts anti-Korean, and Namuwiki/Korean Wikipedia and other South Korean wikis classify them as anti-Korean companies. Mureungdowon (talk) 02:39, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * okay, well, until then, I will remove the section in question. you can recreate it when you have better sources. Tdmurlock (talk) 02:50, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I just added a new source. Mureungdowon (talk) 02:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * it's just another referring to same story about a single guy. A fleeting controversy caused by a quote from a single man doesn't deserve a section per WP:UNDUE. Tdmurlock (talk) 03:06, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I collect your comments and transfer this to the DHC Corporation article. Mureungdowon (talk) 03:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Anti-Korean sentiment in Japan (section) has incorrect translations.
I don't have an account and I don't know the rules or process. Maybe someone better versed can handle this. The Japanese 嫌韓 does not translate to "hate of South Koreans", it translates to "Anti-Korean Sentiment". This is wikipedia's definition, as found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Korean_sentiment Which links to this: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AB%8C%E9%9F%93 in the Japanese wiki. Also searching here: https://jisho.org/search/%E5%AB%8C%E9%9F%93 shows this definition. At the same time, the kanji 嫌日 has no meaning in Japanese - but it is presented here as meaning "Hate of Japanese" in Japanese.

That's the issue, I'll leave it with people who know how wiki works to deal with it. 2400:4053:E100:AE00:CD0A:24B4:ECFE:4B06 (talk) 03:12, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Strong opposition. Your argument is a deliberate distortion. "反韓" (반한) and "嫌韓" (혐한) are different. In South Korea, "反日" (반일) exists, but "嫌日" (혐일) NOT exists. Mureungdowon (talk) 04:26, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * In Japan, South Korea's anti-Japanese sentiment is not called "嫌日". Even in Japan, South Korea's anti-Japanese sentiment is called "反日". South Koreans all know that "反日" and "嫌韓" are completely different meanings that cannot be considered the same racism. The former means opposition to Japan and the latter means hating South Korea. Mureungdowon (talk) 04:32, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * In particular, in the case of Japanese Wikipedia, the fact that there are many hate speech is also shown in the article "Japanese Wikipedia" in English Wikipedia. Japanese Wikipedia is so politically right-wing biased that it denies the Asian Holocaust. Articles related to South Korea in Japanese Wikipedia are very biased and unneutral. Mureungdowon (talk) 04:51, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Can someone who is not a Korean nationalist address this? 114.167.177.58 (talk) 07:37, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You're off the point and criticizing me. South Korean media analyze that South Korea's "反韓" (반한) and Japan's "嫌韓" (혐한) are completely different. In Japan, you can see that anti-American sentiment is not called '嫌美' but called '反美'. There is no article "嫌日" in Japanese Wikipedia. There are "反韓" and "嫌韓" articles individually in Japanese Wikipedia. Do you really think that "反韓" and "嫌日" should be translated equally as "anti-Korean sentiment" and "anti-Japanese sentiment"? Really? Mureungdowon (talk) 08:36, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * This is proof that "反-" and "嫌-" are also distinguished in Japan. If they both translate into English as "anti-Korean sentiment", they cannot explain the violence stemming from Japanese racist superiority that never exists in South Korea's "anti-Japanese sentiment". "嫌日" (혐일) does not exist in South Korea at all, whereas "嫌中" (혐중, hating Chinese) exists in South Korea, and the term is used to some extent in South Korean media. Mureungdowon (talk) 08:36, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * If you can read Korean, read this article in the South Korean Wiki. Even Tsushima Island, where South Koreans often go on tours, hate speech and hate crimes are common. I've never seen news that South Koreans committed these hate crimes against Japanese in South Korea. # Mureungdowon (talk) 08:52, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It was the Japanese editors who translated "[Manga ]Kenkan[ryu]" (嫌韓) into "Hating Korean", and I only took it from the Anti-Korean sentiment article. You are a Japanese nationalist, you deny the unique racial hatred of Koreans in Japanese society, which you never do to Japanese in South Korean society. Mureungdowon (talk) 08:45, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because... it has relevant information to racism/xenophobia in Japan about Korean throughout history, but I agree that there is some biasness that needs addressing. --ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 16:14, 19 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The request for speedy deletion does not have to do with the content of the article (you are free to recreate this article after it is deleted), but because pretty much all of the article was created by Mureungdowon in violation of their block. The reason why articles created by sockpuppets are speedily deleted is to discourage ban evasion. : 3 F4U (they/it) 20:35, 19 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay. Can it remain then? ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 20:37, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

What do those image say?
I've added two images from Commons that seem relevant: File:Right wing criticizing South Korea February 2022.jpg and File:Anti-Korean Wave Protest against Fuji Television in Odaiba, Tokyo. 2011-08-07 (2).jpg but what do the banners say? The description is not very helpful. The latter is related to commons:Category:Protests against Fuji Television (August 2011) and this might be relevant too: File:Anti-Fuji Television rally on 21 August 2011 at Odaiba 2-05.JPG. Ja wiki has ja:フジテレビ抗議デモ which includes some informaiton for the latter, and this protest should likely be mentioned and linked from our article (through interlanguage link if not translated outright). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:05, 27 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Piotrus Rough translation of the banners in the first image: 竹島奪還 "Reclaim/recapture Takeshima" (Korean: Dokdo); 日韓断交 "Break-off/Cease Japan-Korea Relations". The text on both banners is reversed due to the direction of the wind.
 * The second image is more difficult; I can't zoom in enough to read all the characters. White text at the top reads 韓流追放 "Expel/Banish the Korean wave". Can't make out the red text below it well enough to attempt. The three points with icons next to them, I would say are likely: "Don't watch Korean TV" (with an implication that includes Fuji TV); "Don't buy the sponsors products"; and "Don't (listen to/believe) the lies (ウソ)"?. But I can't clearly make out the kanji in the fine print in each of those points or in the main print of the third point.
 * Editors like or  would have a better translation than mine, and I would bow to their wisdom. - Rotary Engine talk 23:17, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Related ja wiki article: anti-korean demonstration
See ja:反韓デモ. Machine translation from ja to en is still meh, so I am not translating it myself right now. Seems relevant. More relevant articles: ja:主権回復を目指す会/ko:주권회복을 도모하는 모임 (seems like a Japanese right wing group that does not like Korea?) and ja:日韓国交断絶国民大行進/ja:日韓断交共闘委員会 (some anti-Korean demonstration and its organizers?). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:11, 27 October 2023 (UTC)